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#37 Carolina Husker

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 10:17 AM

I meant "right now"...

They practically played in the same offensive sets at college, and Pike has a little bit of pro experience...

That isn't to say Gabbert can't be better than him by any means, but as of right now, Gabbert is less valuable to the Panthers than Pike is... and most certainly not worth the #1 overall pick...


I wouldn't take Gabbert #1 overall, but I wouldn't take any QB in this draft at that spot either. He's still the best QB prospect in this draft. He's the size of a DE with slightly better speed and a huge arm. I wouldn't put too much into the system he ran in college; Gary Pinkel is one of the dumbest coaches in all of football.

And the only reason Tony Pike is still on this team is because he was less expensive to keep than Hunter Cantwell.

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 10:18 AM

experience isn't all that matters. Pike has a noodle for an arm. Gabbert... does not. They did not play in identical offenses either.


very similar... The spread offense isn't all that technical, you know...

Gabbert tends to float the ball up...
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Posted 13 January 2011 - 10:19 AM

I still can't believe Pike and Armanti Edwards are on the Panthers.

I digress.

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 10:20 AM

Slow wind up. Too long with his reads. Lofts long balls. Can't play action to save his life. Quick to scramble out of pocket.

Clausen. Pass


I don't know where you are getting "Slow wind up" or that his reads are particularly slow since the ball is out of his hands a couple seconds after the snap most of the time you watch him play. He scrambles out of the pocket when it's breaking down, he can also stand in and make throws while taking hits. He needs to work on stepping UP in the pocket, though. Play action is something he can learn - the offense he runs isn't exactly built around it and it is likely a skill he doesn't use very often.

He's no Luck and he won't go #1, but he's someone to keep our eyes on. He is a significant upgrade over Clausen (at least of last year), and if we have a staff that can turn Clausen of last year into a real quarterback I can't imagine what they could do with someone who has the measurables, mechanics, and tools to actually excel at the next level.

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 10:20 AM

I wouldn't take Gabbert #1 overall, but I wouldn't take any QB in this draft at that spot either. He's still the best QB prospect in this draft. He's the size of a DE with slightly better speed and a huge arm. I wouldn't put too much into the system he ran in college; Gary Pinkel is one of the dumbest coaches in all of football.

And the only reason Tony Pike is still on this team is because he was less expensive to keep than Hunter Cantwell.


I can agree with most of this... especially the part about him being the best QB prospect...

But, that doesn't say a lot for this QB class in my opinion...

I agree about Pike, too...

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 10:20 AM

Gabbert's flaws can all be corrected with coaching....Clausen's can't. That's one huge difference I see right there. Gabbert gives any coach he's playing for a ton to work with and develop. There's not a coach in the world that can coach some ability into Jim. No offense intended to him.

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 10:24 AM

I hate the word "Pro-Ready" now...

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 10:26 AM

I can agree with most of this... especially the part about him being the best QB prospect...

But, that doesn't say a lot for this QB class in my opinion...

I agree about Pike, too...


I respect that feeling and you have a point. I think all of the quarterbacks will increase their stock at combine and workout time.

I just bristle when people compare him to Clausen or say he's a worse version of Pike.

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 10:31 AM

So what's the difference between him and Cam Newton, other than Cam is bigger and blacker like a Chris Rock special on HBO?

Gabbert sounds like a late first early second round pick to me too.

Screw both of those guys. I think we might be better off calling Vinny Testeverde and Randle Cunningham to see if they are willing to come out of retirement.

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 10:36 AM

i wouldn't mind it, but only if they can guarantee that he sits and observes and isn't thrown into the fires like clausen was. with rivera as head coach, i can pretty much assume that wouldn't happen because he had rivers on his team, a guy that sat behind drew brees for a few years and then came out beasting.

only take him if you sign a vet and either let the vet play, or throw clausen's ass out to the wolves.

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 10:37 AM

Is Vinny Testaverde still alive? Even Vinny is better than what we have... And he was colorblind...

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 10:37 AM

Gabbert is the number one QB right now but I will be surprised if he stays there after all the evaluations, combines, and pro days.

I have been advocating for Cam Newton, BUT I really believe that Mallett will end up the number one QB on the board when all is said and done. He is 6'7 235 lbs. and had tremendous success against the best competition. When he can plant his back foot he by far has the strongest arm and accuracy in this years draft.

Gabbert is hot right now because of one game, against Iowa. Watch his games against Nebraska and Texas Tech in back to back weeks. He could hardly complete a pass.

Like I said I am a Newton guy but I would be happy if Mallett ended up the guy. Gabbert I'm afraid is over hyped, over rated, and has HIGH bust potential.