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#91 XClown1986

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 01:34 PM

So.... Who exactly is winning this dick measuring contest here?

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 01:34 PM

Oooh, Internet tough guy alert. Funny how when the tables are turned you change your tune.


I'm a real life tough guy :prrr:

What tables? I'm not even sure you know what you're talking about?

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 01:35 PM

You didn't make one counter argument that whole post...you made assumptions that he didn't get it mentally even though his play in most of his games in his career suggest something different.

I gave you a list of examples of things he does well and reasons to keep him and you came back with "He's dumb and makes bad decisions." Throwing for 300+ yards and 2 TD 1 Int isn't a good game?

I'm asking you to give me real reasons why he won't be resigned. Does he not do all those things I said?


Never said he didn't have great games...you tout his great games too much though. Gus Frerotte had his share of great ones too, several vs Carolina.

If they let him battle to be a backup, fine. If they sign him to be a starter, they're morons.

Why won't he be resigned? What is the point of keeping someone who you know can't get the job done when it counts? Unless Clausen picks it up we'll have the same discussion in two years.

Did Rivera mention Moore in his presser as giving him a chance to start?

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 01:37 PM

Never said he didn't have great games...you tout his great games too much though. Gus Frerotte had his share of great ones too, several vs Carolina.

If they let him battle to be a backup, fine. If they sign him to be a starter, they're morons.

Why won't he be resigned? What is the point of keeping someone who you know can't get the job done when it counts? Unless Clausen picks it up we'll have the same discussion in two years.

Did Rivera mention Moore in his presser as giving him a chance to start?



It's better than keeping someone around who you know can't get it done when it counts or doesn't count, right?

Why do they have to bring him in as a backup? Why can't they just bring him in and you know, let them compete for the job instead of handing it to someone?

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 01:38 PM

You didn't make one counter argument that whole post...you made assumptions that he didn't get it mentally even though his play in most of his games in his career suggest something different.

I gave you a list of examples of things he does well and reasons to keep him and you came back with "He's dumb and makes bad decisions." Throwing for 300+ yards and 2 TD 1 Int isn't a good game?

I'm asking you to give me real reasons why he won't be resigned. Does he not do all those things I said?


Not a single thing that post was an assumption. Not a one.
Moore has shown the the game overwhelms him when the pressure is on.
No way around it.

There's a reason the coaching staff was so hesitant to let him on the field before this season...everybody wondered why..and he proved the coaching staff right..

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 01:38 PM

Another assumption

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 01:39 PM

It's better than keeping someone around who you know can't get it done when it counts or doesn't count, right?

Why do they have to bring him in as a backup? Why can't they just bring him in and you know, let them compete for the job instead of handing it to someone?


Because he's already shown what happens when he has to compete.
Maybe you just missed it.

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 01:39 PM

Tell me what mental mistakes he had in the SF game besides the pick.

Please point to specific examples

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 01:39 PM

Another assumption


Another post trying to run from the facts with grade school insults.

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 01:39 PM

Because he's already shown what happens when he has to compete.
Maybe you just missed it.


He smashes the competition according to everyone who watched?

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 01:40 PM

He's got a typical NFL QB body at 6'4" 220 but could use a little extra weight. He's got good footwork and a stronger arm than people think. He literally can make all the throws (Deep out to Jarrett in Week 1, TD passes to Smitty on skinny posts, TD pass to Smitty against Minny, TDs to Gettis in San Fran, etc). He's proved he can win games in the NFL and move an offense. He's proved he's mentally strong after coming back from being benched for a POS rookie and playing well. He also proved he's mentally strong during that game after he threw a terrible pick six that looked like it sealed the deal but came back to lead two game winning drives in one game.

He proved he can get all his receivers involved and keep his play makers involved. Moose had 1 TD all year (from Moore), Smitty was in beast mode with Moore, Jarrett caught a TD, Gettis caught 2, LaFell had 7 something catches for 90 something yards, all of our TE's have gotten involved.

He's a professional. He handled this year with class and didn't say one negative thing. Despite the way the team has treated him, he said he wants to be back showing his loyalties to the city and his teammates.

Is that enough?


Yep. Look I'm going to go ahead and say I'm a Moore supporter. But's it's not like I would choose him over Manning if he was available. It's just the reality is that we won't be able to get anyone like that.

Moore needs to work on his vision. There were times where he didn't see open WR's. However his vision was never as bad as Jake's or Clausen's last year. All we're saying here is that Moore is a capable player that can be had for a good price. He'll provide good competition and he's well liked. Fox's offensive system was poo and Moore ran it better than anyone, even Delhomme. He does have all the tools. It's not going to hurt us to offer him a contract and see him compete for the job.

Moore, despite his good performances last year never got the confidence or faith shown to him that a starter in this league should and I think a lot of that played apart in his shakiness in the beginning weeks.

Moore, save a few games last year, has always played average-good-great football for us. I'm willing to bet that the same guys grilling him say that Clausen get's a pass because of the situation of the team and that he was a rookie. Both were victims to poor coaching, both were thrown to the wolves. I'd like to see them both with the team next year. One thing you can't deny though was that Moore played better, and Moore delivered better rookie performances in 2007.

Yea I'm willing to admit that the game did overwhelm Moore at times. That is a fault of his. But from watching the game it looked like it overwhelmed the 10 year plus veteran Jake Delhomme, it overwhelmed Clausen, BSP, and nearly every other QB that has played in our ass bag passing system. Moore was the cream of the crop. Maybe that's not saying much but how can we know for sure considering how fked everything was last season?

Edited by OneBadassCat, 14 January 2011 - 01:49 PM.


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Posted 14 January 2011 - 01:51 PM

Ahh...TRD/CRA/P55/PFFL/Sylvian have reached pure bliss. A Moore thread is back and in full effect! I must be like Christmas!

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 01:52 PM

Way to contribute ;)

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 01:55 PM

fact remains, Moore may end up being the best we have available by the time the season starts.. (whenever that is)


and I'm hardly goin to hate on him based on last year.. same goes for Clausen..

doesn't mean he's going to be great or even good.. but that doesn't mean he is horrible either..

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 02:02 PM

He smashes the competition according to everyone who watched?


Smashing the competition usually involves winning in some form.


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