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1/14/2011 CBA News

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Excellent read on the latest CBA news...

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Friday-new-and-note-8329.html

The NFLPA held a conference call this week with two of their important leaders, Domonique Foxworth of the Ravens and Scott Fujita of the Browns. Both players were placed on injured reserve this season, and it was no surprise that the focus of the call was on the health and safety of players and the NFL’s proposed 18-game season.

Interestingly, I came away from the call more optimistic than before it that a deal can and will be worked out. The union never said that the 18-game issue was non-negotiable. There was nothing about that call that suggested to me that the divisions between the two sides were insurmountable.

Bonus info at the end of the article on players' pay during playoffs.

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Thanks for the update ABH, let's keep our fingers crossed.

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thanks for the update on the CBA. + rep

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Err... this is what I took from that article:

Trust is vital, and lacking

As for the back and forth between the league and the union, whether through Twitter, public comments, dueling articles on ESPN.com, or the in-house web sites nfllabor.com (NFL) and nfllockout.com (NFLPA), it is not necessarily a bad thing. Rhetoric is part of the game and has been part of most negotiations.

The deeper concern, however, is trust. Nothing will happen towards a new CBA unless there is trust between the parties.

The NFLPA does not see trust when the NFL refuses to show transparency of their economic concerns. The NFL does not see trust when they read comments in the media about the negotiations and see the union going to Congress to try to leverage their celebrity for potential use in the event of a lockout.

The NFLPA does not see trust when they see a letter to fans from Commissioner Goodell that spins the negotiation as something the league is trying to make happen with an inflexible union. The NFL does not see trust with the NFLPA going on its "Decertification Tour" rather than engaging in substantive negotiations.

The NFLPA does not see trust when they see television contracts that pay through a lockout. The NFL does not see trust when it sets aside days to meet in December that are not taken advantage of.

The NFLPA does not see trust when it sees letters in forums like the Washington Post by team leaders such as Mark Murphy of the Packers. The NFL does not see trust whe it sees letters in forums like the Washington Post by team leaders such as Drew Brees of the Saints.

And the NFLPA does not see trust when it sees the NFL engage Bob Batterman, the attorney who guided the NHL through a lockout, as far back as 2007. The NFL does not see trust when it sees the union have media conference calls spinning a message that is one-sided.

There is a deal to be made here. It will not be made, however, without some vulnerability shown by each side.

That doesn't sound so promising.

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Great info, thanks!

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"The players also mentioned the concern of health benefits going away upon the expiration of the CBA in March. As player reps, teammates with pregnant wives have asked them if they should induce labor prior to March in order to insure benefits."

I really have to shake my head when they talk about stuff like this. Have the players ever heard of COBRA? If I made the kind of money these fools make I would have plenty left over to purchase quality health insurance for my family. The average American makes this work on a 5 figure salary. No reason that some millionaires can't do the same.

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I still laugh that they worry about their health with 18 games, but are pissed they can't hit hard as they used to.

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Lock them out. Just sit out the wave of players whining about not being able to feed their families (and how much can a family eat that takes up a 5 mill per year +salary?). Then have them crawl back to the table and make the employees take the employers offer.

18 games is the issue? WHEN did most of these players go on IR? Can they show me or anyone else that weeks 16-17 are when most of the injuries occur? If so then they might have an arguement. Bottom line the employees don't want to work anymore than they have to, oh well tough poo I say.

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"The players also mentioned the concern of health benefits going away upon the expiration of the CBA in March. As player reps, teammates with pregnant wives have asked them if they should induce labor prior to March in order to insure benefits."

I really have to shake my head when they talk about stuff like this. Have the players ever heard of COBRA? If I made the kind of money these fools make I would have plenty left over to purchase quality health insurance for my family. The average American makes this work on a 5 figure salary. No reason that some millionaires can't do the same.

IDK... White women are expensive. :D

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So no Luck? :(

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"The players also mentioned the concern of health benefits going away upon the expiration of the CBA in March. As player reps, teammates with pregnant wives have asked them if they should induce labor prior to March in order to insure benefits."

I really have to shake my head when they talk about stuff like this. Have the players ever heard of COBRA? If I made the kind of money these fools make I would have plenty left over to purchase quality health insurance for my family. The average American makes this work on a 5 figure salary. No reason that some millionaires can't do the same.

The more money we come across, the more problems we see.

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I definitely don't want to see two more games added on the regular season for two reasons. One, it's all a money grab, and that is the SOLE reason why they want two more games. If the NFL gets their way on this, just imagine what else they will want to change for the sake of money. (The love of money is the root of many evils)

And two, there will be more players getting injured. The NFL likes to talk about meaningless pre-season games, yet for teams who lock up playoff position, the last two games of the season will be just that. The system is perfect the way it is, why mess with that? Money, money, money will be the downfall of the NFL. (I'm sure within closed doors, the commish is talking about setting up teams in different countries.)

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