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Getting to know the Jim Johnson 4-3

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I'll take that bet Salty just because, why not? :D

and second, NGata is not coming here guys lol keep dreaming. He would have to want to leave because the Ravens will pay him, they are a defense oriented team. That is the only way is if he would leave a playoff caliber team with a legendary leader on the defense and a FO who is willing to be competitive every year coaching wise and player wise.

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and this is a great thread, been a while since one really worth reading came up, should be sticky.

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^^^^^Peppers could have been great in any Defense.

I dont think Beason will mind putting on some weight if he needs to.

I mean, he has already switched positions and switched back for the team.

There is still going to be a tremendous amount of players being added to the camp roster, probably a lot of cuts from the eagles team, especially if they change up their Defense.

Good point, I'm sure we'll be scanning the Eagles waiver wire to bring in personnel that have run this kind of defense.

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i know we are focusing on johnson's version of the 4-3, but i could see us with elements of all the d's rivera has played or coached under. we could run some 46, some tampa 2,or the 3-4 he ran in san diego. rivera might even be creating the next style of d ala lebeau?

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If only there was no bullshiit lockout on the horizon I would be more excited.

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Good point, I'm sure we'll be scanning the Eagles waiver wire to bring in personnel that have run this kind of defense.

Now that I believe, as to the other dream players, they're simply that. A dream. Stewart Bradley is a possibility, but I think if they add players to our LB it will be someone young who can develop some. What Im most curious about is how will they use Eric Norwood.

I could see us picking up a veteran FB i.e. McClain from Ravens

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Maybe Stewart Bradley won't be here, and the reasoning being

"On February 6, 2009, New York Magazine reported that Bradley is following in the footsteps of the now infamous Sean Avery and has accepted an internship at Elle Magazine, where he'll satisfy his passion for fashion" -wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stewart_Bradley

......passion for fashion....really?

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ya after reading this there is almost a 90% chance we draft fairley. i just hope we can get a good cb in fa

also remember this. since like u said about the cba the draft is happening for sure. Haloti Ngata is not for sure. Thus Fairley will be the pick ending any Ngata speculation.
ya i'm pretty sure you skimped over this part....

It says SF was running it so this might have been written prior to 2007 before they switched to 3-4, but this is the best reference I could find. I know reading this is going to galvanize the interest of Fairley fanatics, whom are automatically going to look at the diagram and assume he is going to step into that delicious looking NT spot between the center and right guard and anchor the line and skullf**k the QB with his big toe, instead of reading the text under it. I say this because I estimate at least 25% of the Huddle population doesn't know what a gap is and 75% don't know what a technique is. The position the NT spot is in is the 1-technique. Fairley played in the 3-technique spot in Auburn, which is exactly where the UT is lined up. A lot of scouts have speculated that he is strictly a 3-tech DT at the pro level, kinda like Warren Sapp was, or for a more recent draft comparison, Gerald McCoy, whom TB drafted to fill that spot on their Tampa 2.

fairley isn't a NT. we will still need one.

now here's a nasty scenario...

we draft fairley for the 3 tech and then pick up haynesworth for the NT.

that would be downright obscene. i would love it.

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I never said anything about him being the nt...guess u skimmed over my posts too ;)

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:lol: don't go all smf on me salty. Its early yet and the cba makes everything difficult to predict.

Ngata getting let go ain't difficult to predict. It ain't happening. :D

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http://www.scardraft.com/Johnson43.html

Johnson ran a similar 4-3 under similar to Fox. I suspect we will run the same line formations. One difference was that Fox typically put the nose tackle over the center in a 2 gap 0 technique (lined up over the center responsible for stuffing the A gap which is the space between the center and guard on either side. Whereas Johnson put the center in the A gap on the strong side ( between the center and guard lined on the side where the tight end is lined up on).

For a discussion about gaps and techniques for the 2 people that care here is a good article.

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Football-Instruction-2069/Defensive-Line-Terminology.htm#b

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/In_pro_football_coaches_talk_about_a_one_gap_two_gap_three_gap_defense_what_does_that_mean_and_what_is_the_defference

For more detail for the 2 folks who care:

http://www.johntreed.com/fbdictionary.html

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ya i'm pretty sure you skimped over this part....

fairley isn't a NT. we will still need one.

now here's a nasty scenario...

we draft fairley for the 3 tech and then pick up haynesworth for the NT.

that would be downright obscene. i would love it.

Isn't Haynesworth main gripe is that he is a 3 tech and washington wasn't letting him play as such? Not positive, just askin.

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