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#31 mj4life

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 09:04 AM

They have been using him as an one gap dt/DE in balt so ray may not like it but he still has his NT. Besides kemo left and ray didn't like it.


kemo was never the player that ngata is. kemo is basically a run stuffer that's it

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 09:04 AM

Fairley and Aso or Peterson and Ngata?

Neither are happening, but what would be teh bests?


I would take PP and Ngata. Both younger guys and *** if we could pull that off I would cream my pants.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 09:07 AM

I would take PP and Ngata. Both younger guys and *** if we could pull that off I would cream my pants.


Either combo would give us a real chance of being top 5 on Defense. regardless of how shitty the offense is.

Fairley and Aso are more likely though.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 09:08 AM

They have been using him as an one gap dt/DE in balt so ray may not like it but he still has his NT. Besides kemo left and ray didn't like it.


Lewis was calling for a bigger DT while Kemo was still there. Kemo was physically big but never really played big and wasn't very good in Baltimore either. If you read Ravens fans when he came to Carolina they were basically saying "no big deal, he wasn't that effective anyway."

Edited by csx, 19 January 2011 - 09:12 AM.


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Posted 19 January 2011 - 09:08 AM

Imp they will try there best to tag him. If not I say we skull fug the ravens and give the man anything he wants....and it prob still be lower then aso price.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 09:10 AM

I would take PP and Ngata. Both younger guys and *** if we could pull that off I would cream my pants.


Hey who would ever have thought we would have the D staff that we do. JR os spending some money.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 09:25 AM

I'll take that bet Salty just because, why not? :D

and second, NGata is not coming here guys lol keep dreaming. He would have to want to leave because the Ravens will pay him, they are a defense oriented team. That is the only way is if he would leave a playoff caliber team with a legendary leader on the defense and a FO who is willing to be competitive every year coaching wise and player wise.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 09:27 AM

and this is a great thread, been a while since one really worth reading came up, should be sticky.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 09:30 AM

^^^^^Peppers could have been great in any Defense.


I dont think Beason will mind putting on some weight if he needs to.

I mean, he has already switched positions and switched back for the team.

There is still going to be a tremendous amount of players being added to the camp roster, probably a lot of cuts from the eagles team, especially if they change up their Defense.


Good point, I'm sure we'll be scanning the Eagles waiver wire to bring in personnel that have run this kind of defense.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 10:04 AM

i know we are focusing on johnson's version of the 4-3, but i could see us with elements of all the d's rivera has played or coached under. we could run some 46, some tampa 2,or the 3-4 he ran in san diego. rivera might even be creating the next style of d ala lebeau?

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 10:05 AM

If only there was no bullshiit lockout on the horizon I would be more excited.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 10:10 AM

Good point, I'm sure we'll be scanning the Eagles waiver wire to bring in personnel that have run this kind of defense.


Now that I believe, as to the other dream players, they're simply that. A dream. Stewart Bradley is a possibility, but I think if they add players to our LB it will be someone young who can develop some. What Im most curious about is how will they use Eric Norwood.

I could see us picking up a veteran FB i.e. McClain from Ravens

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 10:17 AM

Maybe Stewart Bradley won't be here, and the reasoning being

"On February 6, 2009, New York Magazine reported that Bradley is following in the footsteps of the now infamous Sean Avery and has accepted an internship at Elle Magazine, where he'll satisfy his passion for fashion" -wiki

http://en.wikipedia....Stewart_Bradley


......passion for fashion....really?

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 10:19 AM

ya after reading this there is almost a 90% chance we draft fairley. i just hope we can get a good cb in fa


also remember this. since like u said about the cba the draft is happening for sure. Haloti Ngata is not for sure. Thus Fairley will be the pick ending any Ngata speculation.

ya i'm pretty sure you skimped over this part....

It says SF was running it so this might have been written prior to 2007 before they switched to 3-4, but this is the best reference I could find. I know reading this is going to galvanize the interest of Fairley fanatics, whom are automatically going to look at the diagram and assume he is going to step into that delicious looking NT spot between the center and right guard and anchor the line and skullf**k the QB with his big toe, instead of reading the text under it. I say this because I estimate at least 25% of the Huddle population doesn't know what a gap is and 75% don't know what a technique is. The position the NT spot is in is the 1-technique. Fairley played in the 3-technique spot in Auburn, which is exactly where the UT is lined up. A lot of scouts have speculated that he is strictly a 3-tech DT at the pro level, kinda like Warren Sapp was, or for a more recent draft comparison, Gerald McCoy, whom TB drafted to fill that spot on their Tampa 2.

fairley isn't a NT. we will still need one.

now here's a nasty scenario...

we draft fairley for the 3 tech and then pick up haynesworth for the NT.

that would be downright obscene. i would love it.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 10:21 AM

I never said anything about him being the nt...guess u skimmed over my posts too ;)


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