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Funny cause last year everyone thought I was Moore. And the same people that were saying things like what you say above because I was talking FACTS when it came to Moore are the same ones that finally took their hate glasses off and now singing the same tune.

Don't worry though I'm a patient man. I don't need instant gratification.

See all this means for me, is that I need to stop arguing. It means you have ran out of actual reasons based on facts and logic that are actually relevant to the argument so you begin with personal insults.

So thank you...my logic is quite undeniable ;p

So let's see...

Fact 1: He got into a fight at a strip club

Police reports, witness testimony and video evidence all show this to be true.

Fact 2: Arguing with fans

Video evidence of him jawing at fans, displaying obscene gestures at fans and, on at least one occasion, throwing his pads and helmet at fans.

Fact 3: Shouting matches with HC

Video evidence, as well as his own teammates admissions of multiple occurences of he and Fisher getting into it on the sidelines and in the locker room.

Fact 4: Semi suicidle episode

Admissions by his mother, teammates, head coach and hinself. As well as police reports including the fact that he had a loaded gun in the front seat with hin when he was finally found.

Whatever upside he has as far as physical abilities is far outweighed by these facts. FACTS that would lead anyone (other than you of course) to the LOGICAL conclusion that this is a mentally ubstable individual. One who is in no postion to lead young men in any way, shape or form.

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So let's see...

Fact 1: He got into a fight at a strip club

Police reports, witness testimony and video evidence all show this to be true.

Fact 2: Arguing with fans

Video evidence of him jawing at fans, displaying obscene gestures at fans and, on at least one occasion, throwing his pads and helmet at fans.

Fact 3: Shouting matches with HC

Video evidence, as well as his own teammates admissions of multiple occurences of he and Fisher getting into it on the sidelines and in the locker room.

Fact 4: Semi suicidle episode

Admissions by his mother, teammates, head coach and hinself. As well as police reports including the fact that he had a loaded gun in the front seat with hin when he was finally found.

Whatever upside he has as far as physical abilities is far outweighed by these facts. FACTS that would lead anyone (other than you of course) to the LOGICAL conclusion that this is a mentally ubstable individual. One who is in no postion to lead young men in any way, shape or form.

Complete bullshit! Go do your research. Vince Young never admitted such thing just that he was upset and went over to a friend's house and hung out which is where they found him. People who want to kill themselves don't go over to friend's houses to chill. He stated he was embarrassed because people were saying such thing about him, but that he never wanted to do that and loved his life. He was depressed and upset because all his life he was used to being loved by his fans and the pressure got to him, but not to the point where he wanted to commit suicide. He was also cleared by a psychiatrist.

Here's the real story and facts of what happened between Young and Fisher.

1. In 2009 the Titans started the season 0-6 with Kerry Collins.

2. Fisher benched Collins and started Young.

3. VY went on to with the last 9 out of 11 games of the season and brought the Titans to 8-8 for the year.

4. Meanwhile it was well documented that there was friction between Fisher and Young and most fans believe Fisher hated Young's guts.

5. 2010 season, VY is named starting QB and rightfully so once again.

6. They win the first game of the 2010 season and the Titans are 1-0.

7. In the second game Young has a bad game throws 2 picks and a fumble and Fisher benched him for a scrub!

8. Vince Young was fuming and threw his pads in the crowd, as he should have, after winning 10 out of the last 12 games because he got benched for having ONE bad game! NO ONE believed Fisher made the right move at the point, including VY.

9. After that thing just continued to get worse between VY and Fisher.

THAT'S what really happened!

PS: The so called "suicide" issue was years ago also because of a similar situation where the fans. He took his benching quite a bit better this time around and simply wants to get the f**k out of there. Now that doesn't sound like someone that gets worse, but rather someone that learned from it. I still don't blame him for throwing his pads in the crowd. When Moore got benched earlier this year, he didn't have near the record VY did with the Panthers and he STILL ran right off the field pissed off and into the locker room.

Anyway I'm tired of arguing THIS retarded topic while not actually talking about meaningful things such as his actual QB play. It's late and I'm going to bed. Whatever happens I have no problem taking a bet with anyone that wherever Young goes he's going to continue to prove he is a winning QB and put up good numbers.

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So let's see...

Fact 1: He got into a fight at a strip club

Police reports, witness testimony and video evidence all show this to be true.

Fact 2: Arguing with fans

Video evidence of him jawing at fans, displaying obscene gestures at fans and, on at least one occasion, throwing his pads and helmet at fans.

Fact 3: Shouting matches with HC

Video evidence, as well as his own teammates admissions of multiple occurences of he and Fisher getting into it on the sidelines and in the locker room.

Fact 4: Semi suicidle episode

Admissions by his mother, teammates, head coach and hinself. As well as police reports including the fact that he had a loaded gun in the front seat with hin when he was finally found.

Whatever upside he has as far as physical abilities is far outweighed by these facts. FACTS that would lead anyone (other than you of course) to the LOGICAL conclusion that this is a mentally ubstable individual. One who is in no postion to lead young men in any way, shape or form.

And some people say that all of this was Jeff Fisher's fault:out:

Vince Young losing his starting job to Collins and then about to be cut or traded should be a reality check to him and would have knocked some common sense into a normal person. His ESPN interview showed that he hasn't learned anything from all of this so there is a chance he never will.

His interview was a chance to change the mind's of GM's and fans. To show them that he could grow and learn from the past but he did not do that and instead showed only that he has learned absolutely nothing.

Reminds me of Dwayne Jarrett in the fact that he refuses to grow up, to mature, to be willing to change, to get better and get his head in the right place.

He is not an elite QB. Not even close. Plus he's a head case that has no respect for authority. I would rather have any other QB in the NFL than VY. ANY other one.

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And some people say that all of this was Jeff Fisher's fault:out:

Vince Young losing his starting job to Collins and then about to be cut or traded should be a reality check to him and would have knocked some common sense into a normal person. His ESPN interview showed that he hasn't learned anything from all of this so there is a chance he never will.

His interview was a chance to change the mind's of GM's and fans. To show them that he could grow and learn from the past but he did not do that and instead showed only that he has learned absolutely nothing.

Reminds me of Dwayne Jarrett in the fact that he refuses to grow up, to mature, to be willing to change, to get better and get his head in the right place.

He is not an elite QB. Not even close. Plus he's a head case that has no respect for authority. I would rather have any other QB in the NFL than VY. ANY other one.

This thread has accomplished one thing, at least. It has convinced me that whoever we choose with the #1 pick will be OK by me. Because it could not possibly be a dumber move than signing VY.

Can't wait for draft day... I'm so giddy now!

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So let's see...

Fact 1: He got into a fight at a strip club

Police reports, witness testimony and video evidence all show this to be true.

Fact 2: Arguing with fans

Video evidence of him jawing at fans, displaying obscene gestures at fans and, on at least one occasion, throwing his pads and helmet at fans.

Fact 3: Shouting matches with HC

Video evidence, as well as his own teammates admissions of multiple occurences of he and Fisher getting into it on the sidelines and in the locker room.

Fact 4: Semi suicidle episode

Admissions by his mother, teammates, head coach and hinself. As well as police reports including the fact that he had a loaded gun in the front seat with hin when he was finally found.

Whatever upside he has as far as physical abilities is far outweighed by these facts. FACTS that would lead anyone (other than you of course) to the LOGICAL conclusion that this is a mentally ubstable individual. One who is in no postion to lead young men in any way, shape or form.

Racist. You forgot your hood. VY is the greatest, most stable, nonwhite, FA QB in the league right now. The only reason you (and Fischer) don't appreciate him is because you are a card carrying racist. Please refrain from posting on a board full of race police or you will continue to be called names. Thanks.

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Vince Young is fools gold. You cannot be a QB in the NFL if your teammates have no respect for you....and no one has any respect for this guy. I'm fairly certain my wife's cat is more intelligent than he is.

Oh, and mentally unstable. Thats a good QB trait.

Um, didn't they say pretty much the same about Michael Vick?

I don't see what we'd have to lose if we could pick up VY and see what happens. Maybe he busts, but he has huge upside compared to what we have now.

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Still, Fisher has had issues with more than just one QB. And I'm sorry but they did both happen to be black and Fisher does look like a redneck pulled straight out of Nascar, mustache and all.

Thats exactly why people defend Fisher on this board and sympathize with such a pitiful coach. Fisher shitted on McNair after all he did for him, and sabotaged his franchise holding a grudge with Vince. But he has that "good ole boy" image that people like and he gives "good" interviews so that makes him a "great coach". You cant expect a coach like Fisher to be held to any kind of standard on this message board or be held accountable for his actions. All Fisher has to do is show up and wear those cool shades and people wont speak one word about his shortcomings as a coach. Thats why I dont ever expect him to win anything. The same people who will tell you VY isnt a leader for falling out with his coach, will tell you Kevin Greene was a great LBer, leader, coach, etc even though he threw a punch at one of his.

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LMAO@Vince one season away from frying hamburgers. In 5 years people will still know who Vince Young is and talk about him as a QB. In 5 years, our QBs will be selling life insurance and no one will remember their names like all the other Panther QBs before them. Yall act like this guy is going to jail. LMFAO. He's just switching teams and letting people know ahead of time he's gonna have a big season next year.

....it can happen... Maurice Clarett

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Racist. You forgot your hood. VY is the greatest, most stable, nonwhite, FA QB in the league right now. The only reason you (and Fischer) don't appreciate him is because you are a card carrying racist. Please refrain from posting on a board full of race police or you will continue to be called names. Thanks.

Reverse racist! How dare you imply a black QB is better than a white one! I'll have you know our QB stable is the most respected, classiest, elite one out there. We embody "class" to the point other franchises are jealous of our QBs and are dying to come play for us. Clausen & Moore are the "thinking man's" QB, their decision making is so good!!! They will be on the cover of Madden one day like that horrible QB Vince Young. In fact, the way they do their jobs, represents how us Carolinians do ours. We need help, we need excuses, we need people above us looking out for us, because we dont believe in hard work in Carolina and just dont have the smarts to handle "competition" on the job. We believe in privilege and annointing people for "looking like" they can do the job. We fold under pressure just like our leaders. :lol:

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Vince Young has a personality that would not be respected by the Big Cat. That alone would prevent him coming here, I believe.

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Vince Young has a personality that would not be respected by the Big Cat. That alone would prevent him coming here, I believe.

The Big Cat has a reputation of not opening his check book up, thats why no pro bowl QB who wants to get paid and play for a top flight organization would come here. What big time QB has he ever led here? Jake Delhomme? LMAO. I wonder what we're gonna say when the Big Cat is no longer with us, which could be a lot sooner than later. We need to do whats best for the organization, because doing whats best for Jerry is appeasing his NFL buddies and putting more money in his pocket he cant take with him in the afterlife.

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Here's the real story and facts of what happened between Young and Fisher.

1. In 2009 the Titans started the season 0-6 with Kerry Collins.

2. Fisher benched Collins and started Young.

3. VY went on to with the last 9 out of 11 games of the season and brought the Titans to 8-8 for the year.

4. Meanwhile it was well documented that there was friction between Fisher and Young and most fans believe Fisher hated Young's guts.

5. 2010 season, VY is named starting QB and rightfully so once again.

6. They win the first game of the 2010 season and the Titans are 1-0.

7. In the second game Young has a bad game throws 2 picks and a fumble and Fisher benched him for a scrub!

8. Vince Young was fuming and threw his pads in the crowd, as he should have, after winning 10 out of the last 12 games because he got benched for having ONE bad game! NO ONE believed Fisher made the right move at the point, including VY.

9. After that thing just continued to get worse between VY and Fisher

If the titans were 0-6 in 2009, how did they go on to win 9 of 11 games of that season? Obviously since they ended 8-8 he must have gone 8-2; still a great mark. You must be including the next year's game.

I think you are confused about the Titans season, PFFL. The incident with the pads and craziness that people talk about happened in November, not in the first week.

Vince Young won his first game of the season then had 3 turnovers in 3 quarters against the Steelers, so his coach pulled him for the 4th quarter, but he also said he'd start the next week... and I don't think there was any major meltdown. See article about it here: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5597420 ... Now, read the article and tell me where Fisher is sabotaging Young and trying to ruin him and treating him unfairly?? If Young reacted like this to everything, he'd still be a Titan!

Young played against the Giants and won. He then played until the Jaguars, where he was injured. The Titans won. At this point they were 4-2, pretty good. Collins plays GREAT against Philly (they won) but then VY comes back in against San Diego where he gets hurt AGAIN, the Titans are now at 5-3. When Collins went down against Miami, the Titans brought Young in and he threw for under 100 yards and had 2 turnovers and 1 TD, but he was injured, so no surprise. They lost the game.

In a loss to Washington (putting them at 5-5), he injured his throwing hand in overtime, and Fisher said he might need season ending surgery... and when the game ended, this happened:

But after Gano's game-winning kick, all the attention turned to Young who tossed his shoulder pads and No. 10 jersey up into the stands. Young talked with Fisher, dressed quickly and walked past reporters and even brushed off a teammate who tried to talk to him before he stormed out of the stadium.

so in all honesty, since Collins won them the game against Philly, Vince Young was 4-5 as a quarterback this season. The team didn't do any better with him injured and out and then the whole craziness after that... but I'm tired of people acting like Vince Young burned it up this year and Fisher just decided to make his life hard by being a jerk to him.

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