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#31 LiQuiD

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 12:36 PM

If you folks want the government not to violate your freedom of religion, then I suggest you keep your religion out of government-funded entities. Simple as that, and knowing how invasive the government can be, it's probably in your best interest.

#32 Matt Foley

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 12:46 PM

Your grasp of the obvious continues to mesmerize.


You like her, don't you? It's like watching Bruce Willis and Cybil Sheppard in Moonlighting.

#33 cookinwithgas

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 12:50 PM

Did they ever shoot at each other?

#34 Matt Foley

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 12:59 PM

Did they ever shoot at each other?


No, but they wrestled in jello.

#35 cookinwithgas

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 01:00 PM

Then no, it's not like that at all.

#36 Davidson Deac II

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 01:44 PM

It's called the First Amendment. That is just as much a part of the Consitution as anything else in it. People can and will argue about it until the end of time:

http://en.wikipedia....lishment_Clause

Jeffersons letter:



The Constitution was not written in a way to make this concrete, but we do know from the words of the writer of the Constitution himself what he intended. To me, the combination of the ambiguous words of the Constitution along with the clarity of the followup explanation (and in fact, the explanation was written to reassure a baptist minister in CT. who was having some issues apparently) this "wall" is indeed a good thing for religious freedom, despite the issues some people may have with it.



Thomas Jefferson didn't write the constitution. Actually in truth no one person did. But Madison had more to do with it than anyone.

But fwiw, Madison seems to agree with Jefferson.

I do think that some of the amendments in the bill of rights were written somewhat vaguely because if they had been written more specifically, they might not have passed. They would have caused many of the same arguements we see today.

Edited by Davidson Deac II, 05 February 2009 - 02:10 PM.


#37 stirs

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 01:45 PM

Jefferson's letter is not part of the Constitution.


I tried that earlier and they told me to look it the hell up.

#38 Panthers_Lover

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 01:48 PM

I tried that earlier and they told me to look it the hell up.


Yeah ... it's typical around here.

#39 rodeo

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 03:33 PM

If you folks want the government not to violate your freedom of religion, then I suggest you keep your religion out of government-funded entities. Simple as that, and knowing how invasive the government can be, it's probably in your best interest.


that's not going to happen. they think it's violating their religion if they can't force the government to promote it.

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 03:36 PM

that's not going to happen. they think it's violating their religion if they can't force the government to promote it.


You're a master of distortion.

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 04:01 PM

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