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A non sugar-coated look at Jimmy's season

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/splits?playerId=13198

those are all his stats broken down to a t. read them and come to your own conclusions if you'd like, but here's what I gathered:

jimmy threw 299 passes

of those passes, 69 of those passes were thrown behind the line of scrimmage. that's roughly 23% of his attempts. of those attempts, he completed 71% of them.

of the 299 passes he attempted, 154 of them were from the line of scrimmage to 10 yards. that's roughly 51.5% of all of his pass attempts. of those attempts, he completed only 51.9% of those

in total, jimmy threw the ball either behind the line of scrimmage, or in front of the first down marker, 74.5% of all his passes for a completion percentage of 57.8% for all passes shorter than 10 yards.

It is impossible to win with QB play like that. if your QB is only tossing quick hits for less than 5 yards per attempt, and completing less than 60% of of those easy throws, then something is very very wrong with him.

it's not just the play calling guys, it's the fact that he only attempts short yardage passes, and he's not very good at completing them either. he is too inaccurate, his windup is too slow, and too many of his passes get tipped at the line.

I know you guys are going to argue that he is a rookie and all, but compare his stats with Bradford's:

590 attempts

113 attempts (19.1% of all passes) behind the LOS for completion % of 83.2%

327 attempts (55.4% of all passes) at 1-10 yards for completion % of 59.9%

74.5% of all his passes, too, were from shorter than 10 yards. Here's the interesting thing about that, Bradford managed a completion percentage of 65.9% for all passes shorter than 10 yards with over 5 yards per attempt.

Bitch all you want about the system he was in, that the coaches weren't playing to his strengths and the gameplans sucked, but davidson and fox rolled out a very similar gameplan for clausen that bradford had, in which he would throw quick, easy passes, roughly 75% of the time. The only difference is, Bradford is not inept at throwing the ball accurately.

I don't know about you guys, but I was pretty surprised when I found this out. I thought Fox and Davidson were retarded, but it turns out, they thought that giving jimmy the opportunity to throw quick easy passes 75% of the time was a good idea for a rookie QB, and normally it is, but it doesn't work when your QB sucks like clausen did.

I know it's one year, his rookie year and all, but I have to say, I am not impressed the more I look into his stats and find out that his own shortcomings were the cause of his poor play on the field.

In conclusion, just say no to pickles.

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he sucks bawls: thats not sugar coating it

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We get it--he had a lousy year. Who said otherwise?

The question is, can he get better? A number of you have already made up your minds, despite plenty of reasons not to. The incoming coaching staff obviously hasn't, and neither have several other people on this board.

If you care to understand why we haven't given up, I would be happy to give you plenty of reasons. Or you can just hate on him. :)

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I'm willing to give the guy another chance.

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Stop comparing a second rounder to the first overall draft pick.

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So based on Bradford's averages Jimmy missed out on 41 completions.

Over the 13 games Jimmy played in he averaged 11 complete games, meaning he would have completed an extra 3-4 passes per game, before the 1st down marker, if he performed like Bradford did.

Those 3-4 completions would have given him on average an extra 15-20 yards. Hardly the big difference between the two that you are claiming...

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I say "meh" to Pickles. He didn't play well enough to stabilize the QB position. Competition needs to be brought in. But it's one freaking year and no matter how eloquently somebody presents their case it's no more intriguing than the other 5,000 times it comes up.

Wait until TC, everybody supporting him or tearing him down are just spinning their wheels.

The 2nd rounder is very likely to remain on the team, and he's also very likely to not be the starter. We have the #1 pick, new coaches, and a ton of cap room. There has got to be better material to discuss.

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So, 58% to 66% is the difference between an inept and a franchise QB?

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Team Volek!!!1!!

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Team suckyoldhasbeenQBoption!!!1!!
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So based on Bradford's averages Jimmy missed out on 41 completions.

Over the 13 games Jimmy played in he averaged 11 complete games, meaning he would have completed an extra 3-4 passes per game, before the 1st down marker, if he performed like Bradford did.

Those 3-4 completions would have given him on average an extra 15-20 yards. Hardly the big difference between the two that you are claiming...

i think you missed my point.

my argument is based on completion percentage and how he can't actually make easy throws.

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So, 58% to 66% is the difference between an inept and a franchise QB?

in a way, yes. clausen has such a hard time completing the easy passes, it's not wonder he sucks at throwing the harder ones down field. you have to walk before you run, but in this case, clausen is just crawling

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