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#13 rayzor

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 09:39 AM

didnt the lions run zone..were he was not good at..and thats what we run a lot of


that's a good point. they ran a cover2 and he wasn't very good in it....but i just wonder how much of his problems had to do with just being surrounded by lack of talent and a poorly run defense.

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 09:54 AM

I remember he looked good before. I also remember that even back in Cleveland, attitude was an issue. He has a police incident on record though it's relatively minor.

Also a bit concerned with a corner that always wants to play a particular side of the field. That was one of the failures of our scheme this year.

Still, he did indeed look like a good, up and coming corner before, and he handled Ocho Cinco fairly well.

Could be worth at least a look, depending on what kind of money he wants.




The funny thing about is he wanted to play the 2nd CB spot and didnt want to be the shut down CB so to speak. I doubt he will be garnering much attention because of his play and what team he came from but he still has good talent and is still in his prime.


cutting or replacing lucas is a bad idea, I don't see it happening

restructure his contract but don't cut him, marshall can't take his place and we need to focus more attention on the D-line rather than the secondary

unless a top CB falls to us in the draft i don't see it happening



I totally disagree. Lucas will be 31 when he hits camp this year and he was losing speed last year. Yea he might have a better year but its all down at this point. Bodden would be a younger better replacement.

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 10:43 AM

it wasn't his fault...not entirely. detroit mismanaged him from the beginning.

i have been paying attention to him for a few years. i had heard some things from lions fans i know about this....reasons for his not starting ahead of far inferior competition. this quote pretty much sums it all up.
http://www.mlive.com...stake_with.html


Now, that's what I am talking about, Rayzor. You provided us with some meat. I'm still listening. The idea sounds more intriguing by the minute.

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 11:07 AM

I remember thinking at the time that might have been a mistake for them to trade him (though the idea of a trade of a CB for a NT in a 3-4 I can get behind) because anytime I watched him, I thought he was Cleveland's best DB. I haven't paid much attention to him lately and don't recall any plays he made or even if he played vs Carolina this year so I can't comment on recent events. I agree with most that he certainly deserves a look-see.

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 12:37 PM

I'm reminded of another fellow who looked good in one system but hasn't lived up to expectations since changing teams.

The fellow in question: Jason David.

The DC under whom he looked good enough to get a good free agent contract: Ron Meeks.

It's something to mull...

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 07:11 PM

Cleveland played a Man heavy defense with Bodden.

Lions played a Zone heavy Cover 2 defense.

We play a Zone defense.

Bodden is bad in zone.

Bodden will be bad in Carolina.


See what I did there?

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 07:16 PM

I'm reminded of another fellow who looked good in one system but hasn't lived up to expectations since changing teams.

The fellow in question: Jason David.

The DC under whom he looked good enough to get a good free agent contract: Ron Meeks.

It's something to mull...




So you're saying Jason David would be a barnburner here?... :D

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 08:25 PM

I'm reminded of another fellow who looked good in one system but hasn't lived up to expectations since changing teams.

The fellow in question: Jason David.

The DC under whom he looked good enough to get a good free agent contract: Ron Meeks.

It's something to mull...


Yeah thats great idea.... Steve Smith pretty much said Jason David sucks after the season finale.
What a idiotic idea

#21 Snake

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 09:02 PM

Cleveland played a Man heavy defense with Bodden.

Lions played a Zone heavy Cover 2 defense.

We play a Zone defense.

Bodden is bad in zone.

Bodden will be bad in Carolina.


See what I did there?




Were talking about the Lions here. No matter what they ran he would have sucked. The Browns also ran a 3-4 and CB have to fall back into zones all the time with that formation. Just cause you read the Detroit news story and retyped what they said dose not make you smart.



Opps see what I did there? :ihih:

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 09:11 PM

Were talking about the Lions here. No matter what they ran he would have sucked. The Browns also ran a 3-4 and CB have to fall back into zones all the time with that formation. Just cause you read the Detroit news story and retyped what they said dose not make you smart.



Opps see what I did there? :ihih:



While the Browns did occasionally have their CBs drop in a zone, they play mostly man on the outside with their corners.

And your first argument doesn't make sense. Just because a team is bad doesn't mean a CB should get a free pass for sucking. Good players will be good, bad players will be bad. Was Calvin Johnson bad this past year?

And what Detroit news story?

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 09:56 PM

I'm reminded of another fellow who looked good in one system but hasn't lived up to expectations since changing teams.

The fellow in question: Jason David.

The DC under whom he looked good enough to get a good free agent contract: Ron Meeks.

It's something to mull...


Gotta love the two-first-name guys. Can cause confusion for those easily confused - David, Jason or Jason David. No matter how its listed it could be backwards (some may overlook the comma).

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 10:52 PM

While the Browns did occasionally have their CBs drop in a zone, they play mostly man on the outside with their corners.

And your first argument doesn't make sense. Just because a team is bad doesn't mean a CB should get a free pass for sucking. Good players will be good, bad players will be bad. Was Calvin Johnson bad this past year?

And what Detroit news story?



Yours dose not ether. Just because one player did good dose not mean every one else sucked cause they had a bad year. That D was horrid and the coaching staff moved Bodden twice in a season. Remember what happened to T.Davis when we moved him around? Coaching was horrible and the record showed. Also just cause you run a Cover 2 dose not mean you dont play man. Hell we ran a 4-3 last year and played more soft zone then the Buc's did in there Cover 2. The point is that just cause he didnt work for one team dose not mean he will not work for us. Hell look a Brayton. The fact is your just making up your assumption on what you read in one story and prob didnt even know the guy had two really good seasons before that.


So its like this

Browns likes aggressive CBs

Detroit likes Cover 2 CBs

Panthes like aggressive CBs


ahhhhh see what I did there. :coolgleamA:

Edited by Snake_Fist_Gung_Fu, 05 February 2009 - 10:56 PM.