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#1 posthumecaver

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 12:52 AM

I am sure everybody read the article at the beginning of the web site....

I agree that Fox is not a 3-4 guy but lets face that might be the personal we might have next year....

I don't see nobody other then http://www.draftcoun...son-Jackson.php that can replace Peppers in this draft (as poor mens version..).

If we can't lend him, we are in trouble.....

Isn't wiser then use the strengths of the roster

A LBs core of Beason, Davis, O'Connor, Diggs, Johnson can play 3-4, isn't it coach duty to apply a scheme that fits to the roster strengths instead sturdly apply scheme that the team has no personel for it....

#2 Jangler

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 12:56 AM

isn't it coach duty to apply a scheme that fits to the roster strengths


Yes you would think so, but We won't change. And what are the chances that Diggs will even be on the team next year?

#3 Frash Brastard

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 01:07 AM

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#4 Ashor

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 02:48 AM

I like the idea because it's different and I think change would be good. However, it won't happen because we don't really have the personnel for it. In a 3-4 scheme, the DE's are really DT's that play the end. You are supposed to have 3 heavy linemen and 4 solid linebackers. I think on our part we have the linebackers but our linemen are the issue.

#5 L.A. Fanatic

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 03:43 AM

this again

#6 Mr. Scot

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 04:05 AM

Isn't wiser then use the strengths of the roster...isn't it coach duty to apply a scheme that fits to the roster strengths instead sturdly apply scheme that the team has no personel for it....

Others would say the best approach is to find a system you believe in and then acquire players that fit that system.

It's a "chicken or the egg" argument we discussed in a thread a while back.

#7 Jangler

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 05:27 AM

I like chicken with my egg...........wait a minute....what are we talking about?

#8 CardiacCat893490

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 05:38 AM

I like the idea because it's different and I think change would be good. However, it won't happen because we don't really have the personnel for it. In a 3-4 scheme, the DE's are really DT's that play the end. You are supposed to have 3 heavy linemen and 4 solid linebackers. I think on our part we have the linebackers but our linemen are the issue.


It wouldn't take much to get the lineman, we already have Kemoeatu and Brayton and they're both very good at stopping the run and Keomeatu is good at taking up blockers helping our linebackers get to the QB for pass rush situations, we can get the other defensive end either through draft or free agency.

Now the depth is the problem, besides those possible 3 there's no one behind them to fit the role so I see where you're coming from and that's why'd it probably take 2 seasons for it to work out.

Edited by CardiacCat893490, 05 February 2009 - 05:43 AM.


#9 posthumecaver

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 05:55 AM

yes you are all right but..

Lets say Diggs is gone, it is easier to find a 3-4 LB from the draft then to 280 DE which are really a weak group in this draft.....

We have the Nose tackle with Kameatu, Damione Lewis with 306 pound and Darwin Walker 293 are that wrong side of the scale (even Nick Hayden is not that heavy) and our other DEs Johnson ist 275 and Brayton 283 are better runs stoppers then they are pass rushers....

I don't know, I don't want to see Johnson and and Brayton as our DE in a 4-3 defense, we would have no pressure at QB at all....

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 05:58 AM

With Free Agency and cap it is not easy to get the players you want....

So changing coaches for schemes or coaches adapting their schemes should be easier I think :)

#11 mantal

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 08:07 AM

this again


and again...

#12 methodtoll

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 10:32 AM

We are not switching to a 3-4... End of story

Just let it go!

Meeks and Fox will not run a 3-4!

#13 dimbee

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 10:55 AM

Lock this?

First 3 posts of yes or no wins

#14 pantherclaw

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 11:41 AM

We have a good linebacker core. Consisting of 4-3 linebackers.

We are not going to scrap the whole defense to change to the 3-4.

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 12:38 PM

We have a good linebacker core. Consisting of 4-3 linebackers.

We are not going to scrap the whole defense to change to the 3-4.


I second that. Most people think it's all plug and play and that a 4-3 linebacker can just switch to a 3-4 and be successful. Look no furthur then what happened to Johnathan Vilma when the Jets went to a 3-4. He was constantly looking lost and out of place. Not only that but a most people think that all you need is big guy to put on the Dline. Size isn't everything the best thing they can do is absorb multiple blockers and allow the LB's to finish up the play. In order to do this that OLine must respect there skills in order to double team them.

To use the tired cliche' "Its like comparing Apples to Oranges"


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