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#16 bleys

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 12:50 PM

this thread sucks.

#17 Kurb

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 12:53 PM

I am sure everybody read the article at the beginning of the web site....

I agree that Fox is not a 3-4 guy but lets face that might be the personal we might have next year....

I don't see nobody other then http://www.draftcoun...son-Jackson.php that can replace Peppers in this draft (as poor mens version..).

If we can't lend him, we are in trouble.....

Isn't wiser then use the strengths of the roster

A LBs core of Beason, Davis, O'Connor, Diggs, Johnson can play 3-4, isn't it coach duty to apply a scheme that fits to the roster strengths instead sturdly apply scheme that the team has no personel for it....


*personnal attack*

Learn something about football before you try this again.

*mods can delete my post if they wish*

#18 Raskle

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 03:39 PM

Lock this?

First 3 posts of yes or no wins

Lock.. I'm tired of hearing about a 3-4 defensive scheme we will never switch to as long as Fox is here.

#19 dimbee

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 03:41 PM

That's one

#20 Raskle

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 03:49 PM

Can I count as #2 and #3? :D

#21 dimbee

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 03:50 PM

You can count as #2 :D

#22 magnus

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 06:21 PM

the roster is setup for the 4-3. We're a one-gap team. We're going to stay a one gap team.

As for the draft ends, Jackson's more of a DT in our scheme, or end on a 3-4. He's a hell of an athlete, but there are numerous first-day DEs that fit right end very well - Brian Orakpo, Everette Brown, Michael Johnson, Larry English, Connor Barwin.

#23 Frash Brastard

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 07:09 PM

the roster is setup for the 4-3. We're a one-gap team. We're going to stay a one gap team.

As for the draft ends, Jackson's more of a DT in our scheme, or end on a 3-4. He's a hell of an athlete, but there are numerous first-day DEs that fit right end very well - Brian Orakpo, Everette Brown, Michael Johnson, Larry English, Connor Barwin.


I don't know. Jackson, despite his size could still very well play DE here. Fox likes his linemen big, I mean Pep was around 285, and Brayton at 280.

#24 magnus

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 11:14 PM

Could, just as Chris Canty could. But our problem isn't stopping the run and Peppers was brought in for his rush, not his run stopping. That he became a complete player was a great bonus, but we need pass rush. A guy who can do that situationally to grow into a role would be better than a guy who situationally stops the run and can't contribute where we're worst.

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 11:24 PM

Yeah, dumb idea. Lets just stick to the 4-3 and not mention a 3-4 again.

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 11:37 PM

Could, just as Chris Canty could. But our problem isn't stopping the run and Peppers was brought in for his rush, not his run stopping. That he became a complete player was a great bonus, but we need pass rush. A guy who can do that situationally to grow into a role would be better than a guy who situationally stops the run and can't contribute where we're worst.


yea. Only problem is the talent pool for DE isn't particularly strong this year, and sack "masters" are extremely expensive. So what if the absence of Peppers could be replaced with a rotation of people who accumulate a small sack number individually but add up to make a formidable pass rush?

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Posted 06 February 2009 - 01:03 PM

asking to go to the 3-4 is just a gimmick, teams with crappy defenses tend to switch to 3-4 to make their idiot fans happy and tricking them into thinking it'll be just so much better. out of the 3-4 defense teams we have: dallas, jets, miami, browns, steelers, san diego, new england, soon GB and the ravens run both 3-4 and 4-3. Out of those defenses the only dominant ones are the ravens and steelers, and new england is usually solid, but the rest just arent that great. going to a 3-4 guarantees nothing is all im saying and we do NOT have the people or coaching mentality for it.

seriously... if john fox was given a 3-4 defense, that just means he'd only rush 3 players every play instead of 4 since we don't blitz. what would u rather have?


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