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#1 mountainpantherfan

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Posted 07 February 2009 - 02:15 AM

Saw this and thought I would pass it on. Not really sure how accurate it is but the guy who wrote it seems to know what he is talking about. Interesting read nonetheless.

Link: http://mbd.scout.com...=1843&t=3823090

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Posted 07 February 2009 - 02:52 AM

and it totally lost me right here "Cut WR D.J. Hackett, RB Nick Goings, LB Landon Johnson, OG Keydrick Vincent,"

he's expected to start next season, I guess someone forgot to tell them.

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Posted 07 February 2009 - 09:10 AM

Very misleading.

Sure, simple math shows that we are only 9 million under BUT, we have set up to easily create cap room as needed. For example, Gamble's new deal included a $10 Million "Roster" bonus. As a roster bonus, it all counts on the cap in the year it is paid and is now being tallied that way in the cap room reports. BUt a simple stroke of the pen and we convert it to "signing" bonus and we can pro-rate it over the term of the contract giving us $8 million more cap room instantly. I'm sure the contract contained a clausde making the swap from roster to signing bonus a team option. Gamble still gets his money up front so it shouldn't make a difference to him.

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Posted 07 February 2009 - 11:35 AM

Very misleading.

Sure, simple math shows that we are only 9 million under BUT, we have set up to easily create cap room as needed. For example, Gamble's new deal included a $10 Million "Roster" bonus. As a roster bonus, it all counts on the cap in the year it is paid and is now being tallied that way in the cap room reports. BUt a simple stroke of the pen and we convert it to "signing" bonus and we can pro-rate it over the term of the contract giving us $8 million more cap room instantly. I'm sure the contract contained a clausde making the swap from roster to signing bonus a team option. Gamble still gets his money up front so it shouldn't make a difference to him.


I don't think that it was misleading. He stated what each team currently has in cap space as reported by several sources. I'm sure that not one of those teams will end up with that exact same amount by the time FA starts.

As for cutting Vincient. If he has some type of clause in his contract for starting games this past season that could be a big issue. He was good and should be the slated as the starter for next season but he is also injuried. The same injury that took two years to heal from the last go around. If Vincent has a cap # of lets say 2-3 million and doesn't play this season that could be a big hit to what the Panthers could go out and sign, namely re-signing Geoff Hangartner. Not saying Hangartner is better but he does seem to be more reliable over the course of the two careers.

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Posted 07 February 2009 - 12:00 PM

I don't think that it was misleading. He stated what each team currently has in cap space as reported by several sources. I'm sure that not one of those teams will end up with that exact same amount by the time FA starts.


He posted an amount of space, then stated some less than desirable (IMO) options to free up $8 million. Converting Gamble's roster bonus and rolling his $4 million guaranteed salary into a signing bonus frees up almost $11 million without the cuts or extensions. The bottom line is we don't need to cut anybody until we're sure that they can be replaced with equal or better players. Sure, we're over-paying in a few spots. All teams do. Panic cuts can amount to throwing the baby out with the bath water.

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Posted 07 February 2009 - 12:10 PM

He posted an amount of space, then stated some less than desirable (IMO) options to free up $8 million. Converting Gamble's roster bonus and rolling his $4 million guaranteed salary into a signing bonus frees up almost $11 million without the cuts or extensions. The bottom line is we don't need to cut anybody until we're sure that they can be replaced with equal or better players. Sure, we're over-paying in a few spots. All teams do. Panic cuts can amount to throwing the baby out with the bath water.


I see your point. The cap space # isn't misleading but the options he gives for increasing the cap space is.

How do you know this about Gamble? Was this reported in a article at some point? If that is the case then the Panthers will be good shape for free agency. I would still cut Hackett and Goings. I think Jarrett and the kid on the practice squade, Brimingham?, are suitable replacements. The others I agree that you wait and see what you get first before cutting players.


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