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#16 The Pieyed Piper

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 09:19 AM

Biodiesel fuel from Hemp Seed Oil

Hemp seed oil can be used as is in bio-diesel engines. Methyl esters, or bio-diesel, can be made from any oil or fat including hemp seed oil. The reaction requires the oil, an alcohol (usually methanol), and a catalyst, which produces bio-diesel and small amount of glycerol or glycerin. When co-fired with 15% methanol, bio-diesel fuel produces energy less than 1/3 as pollution as petroleum diesel.

Energy and Fuel from Hemp Stalks through Pyrolysis

Pyrolysis is the technique of applying high heat to biomass, or organic plants and tree matter, with little or no air. Reduced emissions from coal-fired power plants and automobiles can be accomplished by converting biomass to fuel utilizing pyrolysis technology. The process can produce, from lingo-cellulosic material (like the stalks of hemp), charcoal, gasoline, ethanol, non-condensable gasses, acetic acid, acetone, methane, and methanol. Process adjustments can be done to favor charcoal, pyrolytic oil, gas, or methanol, with 95.5% fuel-to-feed ratios. Around 68% of the energy of the raw biomass will be contained in the charcoal and fuel oils -- renewable energy generated here at home, instead of overpaying for foreign petroleum.

Pyrolysis facilities can run 3 shifts a day, and since pyrolysis facilities need to be within 50 miles of the energy crop to be cost effective, many new local and rural jobs will be created, not to mention the employment opportunities in trucking and transportation.

Hemp vs. Fossil Fuels

Pyrolysis facilities can use the same technology used now to process fossil fuel oil and coal. Petroleum coal and oil conversion is more efficient in terms of fuel-to-feed ratio, but there are many advantages to conversion by pyrolysis.

1) Biomass has a heating value of 5000-8000 BTU/lb, with virtually no ash or sulfur emissions.

2) Ethanol, methanol, methane gas, and gasoline can be derived from biomass at a fraction of the cost of the current cost of oil, coal, or nuclear energy, especially when environmental costs are factored in. Each acre of hemp could yield about 1000 gallons of methanol.

3) When an energy crop is growing, it takes carbon dioxide (CO2) from the air, and releases an equal amount when it is burned, creating a balanced system, unlike petroleum fuels, which only release CO2. When an energy crop like hemp is grown on a massive scale, it will initially lower the CO2 in the air, and then stabilize it at a level lower than before the planting of the energy crop.

4) Use of biomass would end acid rain, end sulfer-based smog, and reverse the greenhouse effect.


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http://www.hemphasis...Energy/fuel.htm


Conclusion

The most important aspect of industrial hemp farming, the most compelling thing hemp offers us, is fuel. Right now we are depleting our reserves of petroleum and buying it up from other countries. It would be nice if we could have a fuel source which was reusable and which we could grow right here, making us completely energy independent.

Petroleum fuel increases carbon monoxide in the atmosphere and contributes heavily to global warming and the greenhouse effect, which could lead to global catastrophe in the next 50 years if these trends continue. Do you want to find out if they are right, or do you want to grow the most cost effective and environmentally safe fuel source on the planet?

Using hemp as an energy and rotation crop would be a great step in the right direction.



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Posted 07 February 2011 - 07:16 PM

Hemp for fuel is not a good arguement for the legalization of Marijuana. Biofuel (whether its Hemp, or Tobacco or something else) has some significant enviromental problems to overcome before it becomes a reality.

Thats why corporations don't really care about it one way or the other. If exxon is worried about hemp as a competitor, they would just produce the stuff themselves or combine with a company that does. They would make money regardless.

The argument for legalization is about the rights of an individual to do as he or she pleases as long as it doesn't hurt anyone. The Hemp argument is a Non sequitur .

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 09:02 PM

45% of Californians didn't vote to legalize weed because that was the only guy to listen to.... plenty of people in suits use herb..


The majority of growers voted against the measure from a pure profit standpoint, ironically enough.

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 09:24 PM

The majority of growers voted against the measure from a pure profit standpoint, ironically enough.


this is true..

I guess 6% of the population need converted to overcome that..

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 09:26 PM

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#21 Carolina Mike II

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 09:29 PM

Facts About Marijuana

1. It can land you in jail.
2. It is a plant that the US Government has deemed to be illegal to possess.
3. After knowing #1 & #2 "You" should not complain if you get caught and have to do #1....just saying.

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 09:35 PM

Facts About Marijuana

1. It can land you in jail.
2. It is a plant that the US Government has deemed to be illegal to possess.
3. After knowing #1 & #2 "You" should not complain if you get caught and have to do #1....just saying.



Facts and the Government

1. The Nazi's did everything justified by the law
2. American Patriots were terrorists
3. down the road when it's time to vote for legalization, you should have no reason to vote against legalization.

just saying..

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 09:46 PM

Facts and the Government

1. The Nazi's did everything justified by the law
2. American Patriots were terrorists
3. down the road when it's time to vote for legalization, you should have no reason to vote against legalization.

just saying..


1. Not true, as they were charge under "war crimes" after the war.
2 Depends on which time frame you are talking about. Yes if you are talking about US history during "The American Revolutionary War" (1775–1783)
3. Maybe, but as for right now? It is still the law of the land.

A bonus for you: Your going to have to make sure the Government "gets something out of the deal" before it will ever be legalized. That is why it has not been so far. To much money is made from the way things are right now. Once someone is able to figure out how to make the Government MORE money legalizing it, then you will see a change. just saying :D

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 09:47 PM

alcohol was illegal at one time

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 09:50 PM

alcohol was illegal at one time


Yep, but now the Government make LOTS of money off Alcohol. That's how it works.

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 10:41 PM

1. Not true, as they were charge under "war crimes" after the war.
2 Depends on which time frame you are talking about. Yes if you are talking about US history during "The American Revolutionary War" (1775–1783)
3. Maybe, but as for right now? It is still the law of the land.

A bonus for you: Your going to have to make sure the Government "gets something out of the deal" before it will ever be legalized. That is why it has not been so far. To much money is made from the way things are right now. Once someone is able to figure out how to make the Government MORE money legalizing it, then you will see a change. just saying :D


1) it took an international outside source to impose those war crimes.. until someone bigger and badder came in and stopped their party, if you went against their ideals, you yourself would be murdered.. it took an army to dictate otherwise. so yeah, nazi's under their law were just doing their job.. the same comparison could be made for slavery.. there are plenty of these points to raise..

2) that time frame would be correct. our fore fathers were committing treason.

3) and the only point that needs raised is it's time to change the law of the land. there is absolutely no reason to keep it illegal. it hurts in every aspect more when it's illegal than when it's legal. so when it's time for your vote: vote in favor of legalization. ;)

bonus) hundreds of millions of dollars will come in through taxes, just as it works with alcohol and tobacco. the billions of dollars spent to keep fighting marijuana could be redirected onto actual useful purposes. so I guess you could say there is a buttload of money that could be made..

and if that isn't enough and your government requires kickbacks of some sort, you, as well as everyone else, should feel a strong desire to stand up against such tyranny.. I'm curious how many would actually cower, instead of stand strong?

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Yep, but now the Government make LOTS of money off Alcohol. That's how it works.


for some reason you think they won't make LOTS of money off marijuana through taxes? marijuana will be taxed just like alcohol and tobacco.. that's how it works. lol

Edited by bleys, 07 February 2011 - 10:53 PM.


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Posted 07 February 2011 - 11:10 PM

Yep, but now the Government make LOTS of money off Alcohol. That's how it works.


So did the corporations, and yet it was still outlawed. :)

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 11:18 PM

1) it took an international outside source to impose those war crimes.. until someone bigger and badder came in and stopped their party, if you went against their ideals, you yourself would be murdered.. it took an army to dictate otherwise. so yeah, nazi's under their law were just doing their job.. the same comparison could be made for slavery.. there are plenty of these points to raise..

2) that time frame would be correct.

3 + bonus) hundreds of millions of dollars will come in through taxes, just as it works with alcohol and tobacco. the billions of dollars spent to keep fighting marijuana could be redirected onto actual useful purposes.
and if that isn't enough and your government requires kickbacks of some sort, you, as well as everyone else, should stand up against such corruption.

next?

hardly a valid point raised... for some reason you think they won't make LOTS of money off marijuana through taxes?


First, I did not say the Government would not make money off Marijuana. So far the majority of Voters do not agree and have not made it happen on their own yet.

As for #2 Glad we can agree.

Now for #1, Under "THEIR LAW" Well YES! The thing is, this point is mute as we can not compare laws Nazis had to modern laws the US has on legalization laws governing narcotics. However IF you live inside the United States of America, you have a choice. (A) Follow the Laws placed into effect. OR (B) Choose not to follow the LAW & pay for the consequences that follow from your choice.

#3 Are you from another country or are you from the same as me USA? As for "your government requires kickbacks" I do not agree with that type of corruption! It is actually against the law. I was in NO way saying that our government requires kickbacks to implement laws. To get what you want (the legalization of Marijuana) will take more than the $$ angle. Your movement needs to place a better face forward. example: If anyone talks about Marijuana in a negative light. Work to understand why, not jump into how they are crazy for not using any narcotic.

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 11:30 PM

So did the corporations, and yet it was still outlawed. :)


I agree with what you are saying. It has a lot to do with the public's views towards alcohol at that time too.

The American public, which had once willingly or at least resignedly accepted the law, gradually came to look upon it as the ill-advised measure it was. Yet, because the issue was political dynamite, the movement to abolish prohibition made little headway during the 1920s. Not until 1933, the first year of Franklin D. Roosevelt's administration was it repealed. Following repeal, liquor control again became a state, rather than federal problem.


Back to the original point I had made. At this point in time it is illegal. Once it is not illegal have at it. If you live in the US and you use narcotics don't complain if you are busted for it. I know speeding is wrong and when I have gotten pulled over for it, I don't bitch and complain to the cop. WHY?? B/c I know I was breaking the law by doing my actions.

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 08:16 AM

First, I did not say the Government would not make money off Marijuana. So far the majority of Voters do not agree and have not made it happen on their own yet.

Now for #1, Under "THEIR LAW" Well YES! The thing is, this point is mute as we can not compare laws Nazis had to modern laws the US has on legalization laws governing narcotics. However IF you live inside the United States of America, you have a choice. (A) Follow the Laws placed into effect. OR (B) Choose not to follow the LAW & pay for the consequences that follow from your choice.

#3 Are you from another country or are you from the same as me USA? As for "your government requires kickbacks" I do not agree with that type of corruption! It is actually against the law. I was in NO way saying that our government requires kickbacks to implement laws. To get what you want (the legalization of Marijuana) will take more than the $$ angle. Your movement needs to place a better face forward. example: If anyone talks about Marijuana in a negative light. Work to understand why, not jump into how they are crazy for not using any narcotic.


1st point) that's fine.. in 2012, there's reason to believe they will.. 45% was an astonishing number. they now have 2 years to work on the other 6%, we'll see how that goes.. plenty of other states plan to vote for marijuana for medicinal use. it's going to be a process, but one that will eventually hit most states..

2nd point) it was a simple statement.. you can say it was a "moot" point, but not really.. that simple statement is, the Nazi's did nothing against their law. I can compare it to our modern laws, because the simple point is just because something is against the law or even legal doesn't make it right or justified. I am also simply raising a valid point by saying law makers and law enforcers are not to be viewed as all-knowing. there are a lot of idiots running this country.. lol

3rd point) ignore "your country" comment.. I was just talking poo mostly, but the points do exist.. I am from the USA.. I wasn't saying you agreed with kickbacks and yes, they are very much illegal. you said the government is going to need something in return to make it legal. I'm saying taxes will be in the millions, and the insane amount of money being spent to fight against marijuana can be put to an actual purpose that benefits the people. and if you were going to say that wasn't enough, I wanted to make an exaggerated point that if the government needs kick backs in order to do the right thing, and majority votes mean nothing, then it's time for a revolution. Egypt-style. ;)

Edited by bleys, 08 February 2011 - 08:20 AM.



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