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Matt Maiocco has us taking Newton # 1 overall


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#31 grateflday

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 03:58 PM

After doing all their own evaluation, due dilegence etc - If the coaching staff, Hurney, etc think Newton can be a franchise guy then you pick him, even at #1. If you are willing to trade down to #5 or something with the plans on picking Newton then but cant find a trade partner then so what, you pick him #1. If he is your guy, then he is your guy.

#32 CatMan72

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 03:58 PM

I could see the possibility of us taking Cam # 1 overall assuming he shows well in the time between now and the draft.

Like I've said all along, just because the guy wasn't asked to do something at Auburn doesn't mean he can't and the ceiling on a guy with his size, arm and athleticism is very, very high.

#33 Mr. Scot

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 03:59 PM

I know it seems a touch extreme to just blame everything on someone else whilst ignore what is staring you in the face, but Clausen played almost like a polar opposite to what he did at college.

I don't know what it is about Clausen, it's irrational, but I feel like we really didn't see the real him.

If Clausen were the only one who regressed, I'd be more likely to blame him. But Scherer's pattern both in Cleveland and Charlotte was that when guys were moving from backups to starters, he could coach them up to be good. Once they were established starters, they suddenly tanked (Quinn, Anderson, and Moore all fit that pattern, and you could argue for Clausen in that pool too).

Now why does something like that happen?

Only thing I can figure, backups get less direct coaching than starters.

So it was like once they got his full attention, he ruined them :nonod:

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 03:59 PM

Possibly, but what about the disappearance of his best trait? His quick release?


He's thinking his way through every throw, every move he makes.

#35 Mr. Scot

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 04:00 PM

He's thinking his way through every throw, every move he makes.

Gantt has said that Scherer had a bad knack for overcomplicating things.

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 04:01 PM

In college, one of Clausen's criticisms was that he took too many chances down field, relying on his receiver to make a play...

Add in that one of his strengths was his quick release, and clearly something significant changed between college and the pros


Clausen will get a chance to redeem himself. I suspect that because the windows are smaller in the pros he doesn't either trust his receivers or his accuracy at this point. When you look at Rodgers last night he was throwing the ball into tight windows on most of his deep throws but trusts himself to make the throws. Some of that comes with experience and some of that is knowing what you can do. You can't really compare what Clausen did or didn't do in college at this point, that was ancient history. With 10 starts under his belt he isn't a rookie either. We will all have to see what he can do in the pro game after working with Shula. If he can't do it then, well......... then he isn't the one.

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 04:09 PM

Gantt has said that Scherer had a bad knack for overcomplicating things.


Yup and Jake basically said after he left that he let Scherer get into his head a little too much.

Could also explain the total brain cramp Moore experienced this past season?

I can tell you from hanging out at practice that as the starting QB was walking out Scherer was almost always in his ear talking about something as they walked.

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 04:11 PM

He's certainly had more success at the college level than in the pros. Maybe his coaching approach just works better on college kids.

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 04:13 PM

He's certainly had more success at the college level than in the pros. Maybe his coaching approach just works better on college kids.


Scherer would have had a field day with Cam Newton, LOL

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 04:17 PM

Scherer had that effect on Jake too. Glad other poeple noticed it.

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 04:19 PM

Fairley, Peterson, Green,or trade down

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 05:26 PM

i stopped reading after "Comcast SportsNet Bay Area's first attempt at a mock draft"

#43 eViL jEsTeR

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 05:32 PM

I'd be okay with this. I'd be okay with Newton, Fairley, or Green with our first pick


don't want newton at all.

don't mind fairley.

don't want green.

peterson would be my first choice.

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 05:59 PM

don't want newton at all.

don't mind fairley.

don't want green.

peterson would be my first choice.


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#45 vorbis

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 06:29 PM

if Newton is worth it, he's worth it. i'd bet Shula, Chud, Hurney and possibly even Rivera are going to sit down with him and watch him throw and drop back, get a feel for how he processes information, etc. i hiiiiighly doubt that anybody employed by the Panthers knows right now who they're going to draft at #1.


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