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Taxes drop to lowest level in 60 years


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#91 pstall

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 11:18 AM

epi i don't want to scare you but when it comes to fiscal matters. you and i have the EXACT same outlook.

maybe the same for good food and travel. yeah, i know we diverge on other stuff.

just an observation about money. cheers

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 12:05 PM

the poor need more help and less derision.


I agree. You and I just disagree on the definition of help. You want to hand them money, and I think half of that is you wanting to stick it to the rich guy in the process. I want to educate them. If you quit smoking and drinking and buying lottery tickets, here is how much money you can save in one week. One month. One year. When they see the thousands they can save in one year, hopefully a light bulb goes on.

Bottom line...I want to help people who want to help themselves. You ask why I spend so much time helping dogs and talking about them? They give to you without ever asking what's in it for them. People in need aren't like that, unfortunately. Ever helped people out around the holidays? Half of them complain about the free stuff they're getting.

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 02:04 PM

I believe the poor get plenty of help AND plenty of derision.

Both deservedly so, in most cases.

Comparing the poor in this country to many other places is an eye opener.

But we can do better. We should do better.



Very true. From my experience and stories from a family member that works in DSS. The ones that get help typically don't need it or at least as much as they get.
Think about how much better off the poor would be if charities and other organizations actually spent most of their donations on helping people instead of filling up their wallets or making their buildings fancier.

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 02:08 PM

Personally I get tired of helping those that won't help themselves. And I've known plenty of them.

They're the first to ask "Why does this always happen to me?" after making the horrible decisions that fostered the fuged up situation they're in to begin with.

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 02:14 PM

I agree. You and I just disagree on the definition of help. You want to hand them money, and I think half of that is you wanting to stick it to the rich guy in the process. I want to educate them. If you quit smoking and drinking and buying lottery tickets, here is how much money you can save in one week. One month. One year. When they see the thousands they can save in one year, hopefully a light bulb goes on.

Bottom line...I want to help people who want to help themselves. You ask why I spend so much time helping dogs and talking about them? They give to you without ever asking what's in it for them. People in need aren't like that, unfortunately. Ever helped people out around the holidays? Half of them complain about the free stuff they're getting.


Not sure what the public school system does but I think schools should have a money management class in HS. They should teach kids how to budget, how to save, the cost of addictions like smoking etc.

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 02:44 PM

But who's gonna run up all them credit cards if they do that?!?

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 03:29 PM

Not sure what the public school system does but I think schools should have a money management class in HS. They should teach kids how to budget, how to save, the cost of addictions like smoking etc.


This.

I have been saying this for years. We had such a class when I was in school, and I have set up something at home for each of my kids to go through, since there is a lot of practicality missing in today's education system.