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#31 CarolinaKat

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 12:10 PM

Troy Aikman flashed signs that he got it to....the Aikman to Clausen comparison is just asinine.....



Agreed.

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 12:13 PM

This is my biggest problem. I saw too many plays where WRs were open, and Clausen either A: wasn't going through his progressions, B: playing the role of Captain Checkdown or C: was already scrambling out of the pocket way before defenders got close to him and didn't have the arm strength to hit said open WR on the run.....




exactly there were times when he bailed for no reason.the biggest set should belong to the qb and clausen showed he didnt have a pair.


that has a lot to do with coaching...

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 12:23 PM

Clausen strikes as a product of his surroundings. If he's on a winner he plays with more confidence like his last year Notre Dame. Conversely, if he is on a losing squad he can't take the pressure off himself.

IF Jimmy starts the sesaon and we win a couple of games off the rushing attack and solid defense, I can estimate his play will progress as his confidence builds.

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 12:26 PM

IF Jimmy starts the sesaon and we win a couple of games off the rushing attack and solid defense, I can estimate his play will progress as his confidence builds.


So you are saying if we win in spite of Clausen early, he might build confidence and not totally fug up our season later on? We should just stick him at WR and run the wildcat until his confidence is up.

Why not stick a trained monkey out there?

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 12:27 PM

that has a lot to do with coaching...


Remember, Jake's paly digressed under Rip (off). How do not know Jimmy was instructed to check down if his first couple of reads weren't there. Remember, safe throws are typically the shorter ones...especially to backs and TEs.

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 12:27 PM

The only way to know how Jimmy or any other QB we had on the roster last year will look is to give them a shot with the new coaching staff and healthy oline. Could'nt see anything for the smoke and flames from the trainwreck that was our 2010 season.

Pretty much.

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 12:35 PM

So you are saying if we win in spite of Clausen early, he might build confidence and not totally fug up our season later on? We should just stick him at WR and run the wildcat until his confidence is up.

Why not stick a trained monkey out there?



Exactly, then you went off the deep end. Coming off a 2 win season, Jimmy's going to start tossing the ball around like Aaron Rodgers out of the gate...really? Even if the Jimmy wanted to, do you honestly think the coaching staff is going to allow it? I'm not saying Fox-ball will be back, but I think the number of pass plays will be scaled back early on to what Chud would consider ideal.

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 12:46 PM

I feel sure since Clausen,since was a 2 nd rd draft choice will be evaluated this season and given a chance, even if it is a backup role,that is the good news.

That bad news is,i wouldn't advice fans to purchase a Clausen jersey at this time because his future as a Carolina Panther could be short lived.

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 01:03 PM

Funny how most threads on this board evolve into the argument over whether or not Pickles is worth another shot.

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 01:10 PM

Exactly, then you went off the deep end. Coming off a 2 win season, Jimmy's going to start tossing the ball around like Aaron Rodgers out of the gate...really? Even if the Jimmy wanted to, do you honestly think the coaching staff is going to allow it? I'm not saying Fox-ball will be back, but I think the number of pass plays will be scaled back early on to what Chud would consider ideal.


I think they will demand he comes out tossing the ball like Aaron Rodgers. Considering he'll be doing it for the scout team and preparing our defense for the likes of Ryan, Brees, Manning, Rodgers himself, Schaub, he better air it out in practice or our DBs will be shell shocked come game time.

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 01:10 PM

Funny how most threads on this board evolve into the argument over whether or not Pickles is worth another shot.


Really only thing that's got a huge 'question mark' looming. All other things need relative tweeking (DT aside). That's the reason most threads evlove into a QB or DT discussion even though it mostly likely started as something else. Hey, we could suck eveywhere and the topics would be more diversified!!! :D

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 01:21 PM

how does it make sense for a team that had the worst offense by far in the league and one of the worst offenses ever ignore the offense with the first pick overall?

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 01:24 PM

Agreed. With QB as a biggest question mark, all discussions will and should end up here! It's hard for any of us to have faith in teh Jimmy after this horrible excuse for a season...but the fact remains, we still don't know about him. I do like the fact that before his surgery he came back to Charlotte to work on his game, and I presume he met up with some of the new staff. I'm on the wagon that says Jimmy showed ZERO ability to lead our offense and he showed no promise or special play ability...but I also have hated Fox's ability to groom young offensive talent as well. I'm really on the fence here, with my heart fully hoping Jimmy pans out to be great but deep down I'm also just hoping he really isn't a terrible as his showing was last year. Realistically, how many mid 2nd round QB's come in and start early and eat the world? (like my Jimmy eat world reference?)

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 01:25 PM

O-line was above average



:skep: They certainly didn't PLAY like it. The injuries we sustained there this past season translated to the OL play well below average for the most part.

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 01:27 PM

how does it make sense for a team that had the worst offense by far in the league and one of the worst offenses ever ignore the offense with the first pick overall?


We already addressed this issue by firing Fox.


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