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Jake Delhomme to be released...again.

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This. If he can't catch on anywhere else, bring him back for a day and let him retire as a Panther.

Agreed.

I think he might wind up doing some broadcast work rather than coaching. He's good in front of a camera.

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Man after that video makes me miss Jake being here at Carolina. He gave it his all thats all you could ask of someone. He made the most of being a starter and I gotta thank him for brining us to our first super bowl.

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Your right about that Paintballr, he was clutch in all the comeback win's over the year's. Did someone say Beuerlein? I know Steve was good but did'nt quite have the accoplishment's to be called the best. Good percentage sure, 2 NFC south title's, 2003 NFC champ's, SuperbowlXXXVIII, 2005 NFC champ game. I like that stat line better than Beuerline's good percentage, but Steve was OK.

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Your right about that Paintballr, he was clutch in all the comeback win's over the year's. Did someone say Beuerlein? I know Steve was good but did'nt quite have the accoplishment's to be called the best. Good percentage sure, 2 NFC south title's, 2003 NFC champ's, SuperbowlXXXVIII, 2005 NFC champ game. I like that stat line better than Beuerline's good percentage, but Steve was OK.

If only Beuerlein had the same team around him

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Beuerlein had one average year, a great year, and one average year, with two poo years before that with the Panthers. Regardless of how much his average numbers are better than Delhomme's (and it's not by a lot) I don't think you can say that he was a better Panther quarterback than Delhomme.

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OMG!! I just noticed the title.....I don't even know If I should waste my time reading this thread?? OP should have just made a poll to go along with this thread to make it even better!

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Beuerlein had one average year, a great year, and one average year, with two poo years before that with the Panthers. Regardless of how much his average numbers are better than Delhomme's (and it's not by a lot) I don't think you can say that he was a better Panther quarterback than Delhomme.

The only "average" year he had was 2000. You realize he was a backup in 96 and 97 right? And in those 2 years he had 14 TDs and 5 INTs.

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True killerkat, Steve never had that kinda talent around him, would've been a different conversation if he had.

If only every non nut hugger could be objective and realize that.

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I love me some Jake.

...Not that I want him back, but I do appreciate the fond memories.

As to being the best QB we've ever had, he sure is based on wins. The two guys ran such different offenses it is really tough to compare stats.

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The only "average" year he had was 2000. You realize he was a backup in 96 and 97 right? And in those 2 years he had 14 TDs and 5 INTs.

I'm well aware that he was a backup those years, so I just threw them out. Secondly 2000 was in many ways a better season than 1998. Both of which were on par with an average Jake year based on his career average. The only year that he was far and away better than Jakes average was 1999.

So, you could argue that he had a one year wonder year with Carolina, considering it was the best year of his career. In fact his QB rating average for the three seasons that he started all games is a lowly 85.6, which is below Jakes career average with the panthers if you throw out his last season. But keep on nut hugging Beuerlein if you want.

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I'm well aware that he was a backup those years, so I just threw them out. Secondly 2000 was in many ways a better season than 1998. Both of which were on par with an average Jake year based on his career average. The only year that he was far and away better than Jakes average was 1999.

So, you could argue that he had a one year wonder year with Carolina, considering it was the best year of his career. In fact his QB rating average for the three seasons that he started all games is a lowly 85.6, which is below Jakes career average with the panthers if you throw out his last season. But keep on nut hugging Beuerlein if you want.

Yea if you take away seasons from Beuerlein and only count the good ones for Delhomme, then I guess Delhomme will be a better QB lol... I bet you're counting the year Delhomme only started 3 games when you calculated those QB Ratings right? Because excluding that year and also excluding last year (while only including his healthy years with us), his QB rating is still below Beuerleins starting years. That's a more fair comparison. (btw...Beuerleins 3 starting years QB rating is 87.5)

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Mav's got a good point, about the difference of offense with those team's. I try to keep an open mind killerkat, but Jake will alway's have a place in the history of the team, you know what I'am tryin to say...like Smitty and Moose and Hoooooov! I can still see D.Foster and that leap into the endzone...

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Sure he has a place in our history and brought us good memories. But according to the numbers, he isn't the best.

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I miss Jake. I think after last year we realize what he brought to the table. No, not Peyton Manning stats, but he had fun, and at times, he made us have fun too. You could tell he cared about the team and winning, not just the money, and that made us care for this franchise way more than before he came along. He was a leader, and his team followed him through each game. He took blame when it was due and came back and tried his hardest to do better.

Jake gave me my favorite football game of all time and my most hated football game, which are the Super Bowl game and the Arizona loss in the playoffs. It was a roller-coaster ride with him and this team but it was NEVER boring.

I do think he was a better QB than most give him credit for. He had the best WR in the league on 2 occasions with 2 different WRs on a team that was always run heavy. No, not Tom Brady skills, but he was good before that surgery.

Hate the people that became fans that super bowl year, but you'd be hating a LOT of people on these forums. I personally just moved to Charlotte the July before the Super Bowl season. My friend down here at the time said I should start watching the Panthers, now that I could see every game. I watched that first game with him, when Peete left the game, and Jake came in and did his thing. I was hooked from that day forward with the Panthers, and the more I seen of Jake that year, the more I fell in love with this team. Jake brought a lot to this team, more than things like NFC title games or super bowl appearances. We can hate on his diminishing skills later on, but Jake had class and still does.

Bring him in to retire, he's still ours, he's still a Panther, and he always will be. If he can contribute some way for the team, I say do it. He may not be able to teach the most "technical" things to QBs, but he can sure show them how to be classy, how to lead your team, take blame when it's due, and how to be a great backup because you NEVER know when it will be your time, and who best to teach them that than Jake, who lived in that scenario.

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