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#31 ECUPantherFan

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 10:42 AM

Let me just say that I was 100% against any discussion about drafting Cam Newton #1 overall from the first time it was ever mentioned. I still don't think a rational GM would do it.

But after watching some video from his workouts... holy cow, I did not realize how big this kid actually is. Right now he is all potential. He has a TON of potential. But the #1 overall pick should NEVER be used on someone who just has potential. The #1 pick needs to go to someone that is a sure thing. Right now, Nick Fairley is just about the only sure thing in this draft.

...other than Dwayne Harris, who will go 3rd or 4th round to some incredibly smart, lucky team... :D

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 10:53 AM

Personally I'm reserved spending our #1 on him until he does go to the combine. It's not just the throwing for me, but I'm eager to see how the interview process & evaluations go. From how he's carried himself so far, I expect good things but we'll see.


I wouldn't count on him throwing at the combine. He will be there and will interview but I would expect him to hold out until pro day where he has a little bit more control over it. From what i have heard Cam is willing to throw but is being advised not to.

Before everyone jumps on Cam over that this happens every single year. RARELY to the top three or four QB's throw at the combine. I don't think any of the "big 4" last year threw at the combine.

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 11:12 AM

Let me just say that I was 100% against any discussion about drafting Cam Newton #1 overall from the first time it was ever mentioned. I still don't think a rational GM would do it.

But after watching some video from his workouts... holy cow, I did not realize how big this kid actually is. Right now he is all potential. He has a TON of potential. But the #1 overall pick should NEVER be used on someone who just has potential. The #1 pick needs to go to someone that is a sure thing. Right now, Nick Fairley is just about the only sure thing in this draft.

...other than Dwayne Harris, who will go 3rd or 4th round to some incredibly smart, lucky team... :D


Name one #1 overall pick that wasn't drafted on potential.

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 11:38 AM

Name one #1 overall pick that wasn't drafted on potential.


You missed the word "just" in the quote "But the #1 overall pick should NEVER be used on someone who just has potential."

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 11:46 AM

You missed the word "just" in the quote "But the #1 overall pick should NEVER be used on someone who just has potential."


Then how about we draft Cam Newton because he's "just" the best football player in the entire draft?

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 11:46 AM

Newton is all potential though. Almost nothing from his college play will translate to the NFL. I have a hard time trusting a QB that ran the ball just as many times as he threw it with the #1 pick. Not to mention he started a grand total of 1 year. Everyone is so giddy over the physical attributes (which while special for a QB, are not that special in the NFL) they ignore the giant question marks about his game that unfortunately can't be answered by tightly scripted workouts. I'm just a little apprehensive about a one year wonder that not only was in a gimmick offense, but was 50/50 QB/RB.

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 11:54 AM

Then how about we draft Cam Newton because he's "just" the best football player in the entire draft?


College football maybe.

Certainly not NFL

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 12:01 PM

Here is the ultimate question:

1) If Newton works out we have a franchise QB for the next 10 years if it doesn't then we will be set back wt least 2-3 more years...so is this worth the risk?


Here's the real question:

If we draft Newton and he doesn't pan out, would we be in any worse shape than we are in now?

I don't think so. You don't find a franchise quarterback without taking a risk.

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 12:09 PM

College football maybe.

Certainly not NFL


So, Luck, Fairley, Green, and Patterson have proven themselves in the NFL already? Do you actually have a point, or do you just like trolling for a good argument?

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 12:14 PM

Can you imagine how good Carolina would be on Madeen 12 with Cam?

Gotta have em!!!!:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 12:30 PM

So, Luck, Fairley, Green, and Patterson have proven themselves in the NFL already? Do you actually have a point, or do you just like trolling for a good argument?


It is widely agreed that Cam newton is less NFL ready than many other QBs because of the system he plays in, but much more athletic which means he is being drafted on 100% NFL potential. You will have to teach him to be more of a pocket QB as well other aspects of the NFL game that he hasn't experienced yet.

Sam Bradford is less athletic but was considered more of an NFL QB. Luck is a perfect pocket QB so we already know he can handle that part.

The NFL may be way to much for Newton to transition to and he will not be ready to start in the NFL for a while.

Which means it would be dumb to draft him unless we also pick up a veteran QB.

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 12:31 PM

Can you imagine how good Carolina would be on Madeen 12 with Cam?

Gotta have em!!!!:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:


Best argument yet

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 12:41 PM

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Which means it would be dumb to draft him unless we also pick up a veteran QB.


The Panthers need to pick up a veteran QB anyway. So the question is does this team look like 1) a Vet QB, Clausen and Cam Newton or 2) a Vet QB, Clausen, and Pike??

The more and more I read these board and think about the Panthers, I find it so interesting how for years they have pretty much ignored the QB position and now here we are at #1 and its "pass on Newton" because he shouldnt be drafted that high... he is a#5 or #10 not a #1, etc".

If Cam has the skills, talent, etc to be a franchise guy and the powers that be feel that way they have to take him. Who cares if he takes 3 years to develope. And if the powers that be feel he can be the guy, then they also shouldnt play around with trading down.

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 12:48 PM

The Panthers need to pick up a veteran QB anyway. So the question is does this team look like 1) a Vet QB, Clausen and Cam Newton or 2) a Vet QB, Clausen, and Pike??


Vet, Newton, Moore?

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 12:51 PM

Let me just say that I was 100% against any discussion about drafting Cam Newton #1 overall from the first time it was ever mentioned. I still don't think a rational GM would do it.

But after watching some video from his workouts... holy cow, I did not realize how big this kid actually is. Right now he is all potential. He has a TON of potential. But the #1 overall pick should NEVER be used on someone who just has potential. The #1 pick needs to go to someone that is a sure thing. Right now, Nick Fairley is just about the only sure thing in this draft.

...other than Dwayne Harris, who will go 3rd or 4th round to some incredibly smart, lucky team... :D


I agree about Harris, guys a playmaker, but the argument about Newton being only potential is crap (and I don't mean to single you out on that others have used it as well). There is never a sure thing in the draft. Not at #1 or #201 anyone that get drafted is drafted because of how team view that potential. I could just as easily make the argument that Luck was all potential. Just because he played in a Pro Style O doesn't guarantee success (ask Clausen).

Along with his physical potential he showed a ton of intangibles on the field this year. From the way he just carried Auburn on his shoulder to the way he was a leader out there he willed that team to a National Championship. Anyone that will argue that Auburn would have won it all without Newton I will laugh in there face. And the way he handle all the adversity this year and still could not be stopped speaks volumes to how he will handle the adversity every QB faces in the NFL.

Obviously I agree he is no where near a sure thing but Fairley could be just as much of a bust (he reminds me a bit too much of Haynesworth).


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