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Prayer question for the non-religious

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In times of fear, struggle and uncertainty, I don't tend to look for a mystical being to bail me or others out.

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So, for some, let's say your child is on the verge of passing, there's not a thing anyone can do for them, no hope of any sort, you still wouldn't take a chance on praying?

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If there is no hope, how will praying to something that I don't really believe in get me anything?

I mean, really, you're trying really, really hard to prove something or get someone to respond in a certain way... desperate times call for desperate measures, right?

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If there is no hope, how will praying to something that I don't really believe in get me anything?

I mean, really, you're trying really, really hard to prove something or get someone to respond in a certain way... desperate times call for desperate measures, right?

No, just asking.

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No, just asking.

Well, it clearly seems that you're trying to prove that those who claim to be non-believers aren't truly that and that they would for some reason doubt what they believe should times get desperate enough... as your ever more serious scenarios point to- that someone who claims to not believe would throw up a "hail mary" should it be a desperate enough situation.

Am I wrong in my surmisal?

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So, for some, let's say your child is on the verge of passing, there's not a thing anyone can do for them, no hope of any sort, you still wouldn't take a chance on praying?

no.

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So, for some, let's say your child is on the verge of passing, there's not a thing anyone can do for them, no hope of any sort, you still wouldn't take a chance on praying?

I don't see why not. It's not like it would take long. For me, I'm in the "not really sure" category. I'm not stomping around claiming there's no god, but I don't really believe in any one in particular.

Throwing out a prayer would probably be part of the "exhausting all resources" method for a scenario like that. In a life/death situation where those precious minutes could be used in saving my ass? Not a chance I'd pray.

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Well, it clearly seems that you're trying to prove that those who claim to be non-believers aren't truly that and that they would for some reason doubt what they believe should times get desperate enough... as your ever more serious scenarios point to- that someone who claims to not believe would throw up a "hail mary" should it be a desperate enough situation.

Am I wrong in my surmisal?

How bout if I respond this way...

Do you honestly believe Zod was "just asking an honest question" when he threw out his "should he have prayed" thread?

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How bout if I respond this way...

Do you honestly believe Zod was "just asking an honest question" when he threw out his "should he have prayed" thread?

You'd have to ask Zod what his motivation is/was for the thread

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How bout if I respond this way...

Do you honestly believe Zod was "just asking an honest question" when he threw out his "should he have prayed" thread?

Didn't Zod explain himself anyway?

Um, I believe I started the thread with legitimate questions that can have multiple points of view , and never labeled any of them as stupid.

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So, for some, let's say your child is on the verge of passing, there's not a thing anyone can do for them, no hope of any sort, you still wouldn't take a chance on praying?

Nope.

Now, another question might be.....would the faithful be a bit tempted to curse his god for either

a) causing the affliction ?

B) not making it go away ?

Since clearly it would be within His almighty power to do just that?

As the father of 2 healthy children, the very thought of this scenario is difficult.

But something as awful as sick/dying children does not bring on thoughts of a hereafter or a deity, but rather the obvious lack of one.

To me.

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Who Said GOD needs a Religion to Belong to???

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