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Matt Foley

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Improving infrastructure will be awesome. Can't wait to take a 300 mph bullet train to NYC. :rolleyes:

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I agree with the infrastructure upgrades and additions in the Stimulus Package.

But there is still waaaaay too much bullsh*t in that bill. Pork City.

Nuh uh. Obama says there is no pork in it. Don't you believe the Prez?

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No, not really.

Though it is nice to hear a press conference where the leader of the free world has a working knowledge of the English language.

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I agree with the infrastructure upgrades and additions in the Stimulus Package.

But there is still waaaaay too much bullsh*t in that bill. Pork City.

i actually looked through all of it and the only thing I could see as pork was like the 8 trillion designated for furniture in the Homeland Security building.

please point out things you think are pork

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No, not really.

Though it is nice to hear a press conference where the leader of the free world has a working knowledge of the English language.

Agree with you there.

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Until he's asked about Joe Biden.lol

I believe we have our comedic material for the next 4-8 years.

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i actually looked through all of it and the only thing I could see as pork was like the 8 trillion designated for furniture in the Homeland Security building.

please point out things you think are pork

How's this?

$400 million for research into global warming.

$2.4 billion for projects to demonstrate how carbon greenhouse gas can be safely removed from the atmosphere.

$650 million for coupons to help consumers convert their TV sets from analog to digital, part of the digital TV conversion.

$600 million to buy a new fleet of cars for federal employees and government departments.

$75 million to fund programs to help people quit smoking.

$21 million to re-sod the National Mall, which suffered heavy use during the Inauguration.

$2.25 billion for national parks. This item has sparked calls for an investigation, because the chief lobbyist of the National Parks Association is the son of Rep. David R. Obey, D-Wisc. The $2,25 billion is about equal to the National Park Service's entire annual budget. The Washington Times reports it is a threefold increase over what was originally proposed for parks in the stimulus bill. Obey is chairman of the House Appropriations Committee.

$335 million for treatment and prevention of sexually transmitted diseases.

$50 million for the National Endowment for the Arts. $4.19 billion to stave off foreclosures via the Neighborhood Stabilization Program. The bill allows nonprofits to compete with cities and states for $3.44 billion of the money, which means a substantial amount of it will be captured by ACORN, the controversial activist group currently under federal investigation for vote fraud. Another $750 million would be exclusively reserved for nonprofits such as ACORN ? meaning cities and states are barred from receiving that money. Sen. David Vitter, R-La., charges the money could appear to be a "payoff" for the partisan political activities community groups in the last election cycle.

$44 million to renovate the headquarters building of the Agriculture Department.

$32 billion for a "smart electricity grid to minimize waste.

$87 billion of Medicaid funds, to aid states.

$13 billion to repair and weatherize public housing, help the homeless, repair foreclosed homes.

$20 billion for quicker depreciation and write-offs for equipment.

$10.3 billion for tax credits to help families defray the cost of college tuition.

$20 billion over five years for an expanded food stamp program.

I'm not necessarily against all these things, but to portray them as a way to create jobs and consumer spending is laughable. It's a way to get government programs passed surreptitiously.

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Reporter: President Obama, what do you think about Joe Biden's latest gaff?

<clips of Biden on a profanity laced tirade at children's softball game>

Obama: Jesus Christ-

/obama lights cigarette

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How's this?

I'm not necessarily against all these things, but to portray them as a way to create jobs and consumer spending is laughable. It's a way to get government programs passed surreptitiously.

He said give him one example of pork, not 20.

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i actually looked through all of it and the only thing I could see as pork was like the 8 trillion designated for furniture in the Homeland Security building.

please point out things you think are pork

Not my list, but here's a few things:

Provisions of the bill that many legislators are questioning:

$1 billion for Amtrak, which hasn’t earned a profit in four decades.

$2 billion to help subsidize child care.

$400 million for research into global warming.

$2.4 billion for projects to demonstrate how carbon greenhouse gas can be safely removed from the atmosphere.

$650 million for coupons to help consumers convert their TV sets from analog to digital, part of the digital TV conversion.

$600 million to buy a new fleet of cars for federal employees and government departments.

$75 million to fund programs to help people quit smoking.

$21 million to re-sod the National Mall, which suffered heavy use during the Inauguration.

$2.25 billion for national parks. This item has sparked calls for an investigation, because the chief lobbyist of the National Parks Association is the son of Rep. David R. Obey, D-Wisc. The $2,25 billion is about equal to the National Park Service’s entire annual budget. The Washington Times reports it is a threefold increase over what was originally proposed for parks in the stimulus bill. Obey is chairman of the House Appropriations Committee.

$335 million for treatment and prevention of sexually transmitted diseases.

$50 million for the National Endowment for the Arts. $4.19 billion to stave off foreclosures via the Neighborhood Stabilization Program. The bill allows nonprofits to compete with cities and states for $3.44 billion of the money, which means a substantial amount of it will be captured by ACORN, the controversial activist group currently under federal investigation for vote fraud. Another $750 million would be exclusively reserved for nonprofits such as ACORN – meaning cities and states are barred from receiving that money. Sen. David Vitter, R-La., charges the money could appear to be a “payoff” for the partisan political activities community groups in the last election cycle.

$44 million to renovate the headquarters building of the Agriculture Department.

$32 billion for a “smart electricity grid to minimize waste.

$87 billion of Medicaid funds, to aid states.

$53.4 billion for science facilities, high speed Internet, and miscellaneous energy and environmental programs.

$13 billion to repair and weatherize public housing, help the homeless, repair foreclosed homes.

$20 billion for quicker depreciation and write-offs for equipment.

$10.3 billion for tax credits to help families defray the cost of college tuition.

$20 billion over five years for an expanded food stamp program.

http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/stimulus_pork_spending/2009/01/29/176503.html

I'm sure it can be argued that not all of this is "pork" and it really depends on your perspective, but let's get real... they're spending money that the gov't has to borrow on things like sod and TV converters when the public school that my wife teaches at can't buy paper????

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$2 billion to consolidate Husker and NC's lists into one cohesive superlist.

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