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Mayock and Mora Jr. Say Panthers Need QB With #1 Pick


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#1 Proudiddy

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 03:22 PM

I know we've been following in the positional threads for the combine, but I didn't see anyone had brought this up yet. Anyway, around 1pm or so the analysts had made several references to Coach Riv having to be the guy to knock down the first domino come draft day.

Eisen then went on to acknowledge that this is a particularly hard year to be picking #1 because unlike past years, there isn't any clear cut, "gotta have him" #1 pick. So then Mayock and Mora Jr. began discussing our situation and Mayock said with the new regime, our coaches and front office have to come in and evaluate whether Jimmy is the franchise guy. If he isn't, we won't be playing in a Superbowl, point blank.

So Mora Jr. then said how he did a few games this year of ours and he said Jimmy is NOT a franchise QB. He said he sat down with him, interviewed him a few times, and got to know him, and then watching the games, he just didn't think he was a QB for us to build around. (I and a lot of others here find this painfully obvious.)

He and Mayock then went on to make a point that we don't want to feel like we're reaching because of that position of need at QB and take a guy because we feel like we have to. They said if our front office and coaching staff see a guy during this process, evaluate him and then all agree that he is a guy we can build around, you have to take him. But, if there is any doubt, we have to go elsewhere, because everyone in the organization has to buy in and help this guy become the QB we want him to be.

Mora Jr. then made a good point that b/c it is Rivera's first year, and it's a new regime and new system, if we take a QB, Riv is in a good position in that sense because it will be "his guy" and we're not expected to go from worst to first in his first year of coaching so we can afford to let a young QB grow a year.

Just thought it was an interesting and honest discussion by the analysts for once.

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 03:27 PM

Agreed with Mora Jr the biggest thing is a new coach wanting to hand pick his own QB imo with the FA QB's looking a bit sub par this year I think we'll address that need in the draft.

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 03:30 PM

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 03:31 PM

To be honest I know we dont need to go into this year with Clausen starting and with FA up in the air we will need to draft a QB. IMO this is why we really needed a 2nd round pick. Since we dont have that we are going to have to reach in round 1. No matter what QB we select they will have a high chance to bust. Go figure we pick a bad year to have a bad year. I guess its cause of the black cat.

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 03:36 PM

To be honest I know we dont need to go into this year with Clausen starting and with FA up in the air we will need to draft a QB. IMO this is why we really needed a 2nd round pick. Since we dont have that we are going to have to reach in round 1. No matter what QB we select they will have a high chance to bust. Go figure we pick a bad year to have a bad year. I guess its cause of the black cat.


Yeah man, this is what makes this year so bad IMO. The year we finally get that #1 pick, our biggest position of need is QB, but there is no highly-touted franchise QB. Everyone of the QBs they talk about in this draft are relying on banking on potential, because they aren't proven winners or something is lacking in their background. Then you look back at the past what, 5 or 6 years and look at all the franchise QBs that have come out of the drafts...

None of these guys standout as having it "all." Any other year of the past 5 or so, we would've been fine needing a QB with the #1 pick, this year there just doesn't seem to be a clear TOP PROSPECT at our biggest positions of need.

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 03:37 PM

I have always thought there is a good chance of us taking a QB # 1 overall, but I'm not sure if that will be Gabbert or Newton at this point...

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 03:41 PM

Sorry I got a little lost there, did you say Mora sat down and interviewed with Clausen THIS off-season? If so, why was he doing that? Or did you mean he sat down with him last year before the draft etc?

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 03:44 PM

Sorry I got a little lost there, did you say Mora sat down and interviewed with Clausen THIS off-season? If so, why was he doing that? Or did you mean he sat down with him last year before the draft etc?


Mora said he spent some time with Jimmy when he did our games, so it was during the season.

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 03:46 PM

If we took a QB there its Gabbart. I still say trade down and address defense first and foremost

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 03:46 PM

Mora said he spent some time with Jimmy when he did our games, so it was during the season.


Cheers, that is the first indication into deciding if he is the 'right kind of person' to lead a team. Despite not being any good as a coach, at least Mora has been in the league.

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 03:52 PM

if the panthers had actually done interviews and scouted Clausen instead of bpa looking at him they would have seen the same thing.

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 03:53 PM

And what QB in this draft is worth the top pick? Nobody!

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 03:54 PM

If we took a QB there its Gabbart. I still say trade down and address defense first and foremost


UGH, I'm sick of reading this.

Yes, lets ignore our most glaring problem, our Offense, to create a monster defense that no one can score more than 7 points on.

We'll still lose because we will only score 3.

If we don't get a QB (Newton still being my favorite), I'd rather we draft A.J. Green than a DT/DE.

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 03:55 PM

Mora Jr. is a moron, but I do respect Mayock, so I feel like it's a wash that I agree with both of them.

Here's the thing I don't understand. The vast majority of us know Jimmy sucks and is not the long term solution at QB. This draft has no consensus #1 pick, and other than Patrick Peterson at CB, no one really even agrees who is the best prospect per position (i.e. Fairley vs Dareus, Gabbert vs. Newton, Jones vs. Green, Bowers vs. Quinn etc). Why would we (and by we I mean Rivera and Hurney) not take the player we feel grades out the best by our standards at the QB postion? It's obviously our biggest need, has the potential to be the biggest help to a bad team, and I think the top 4-5 players in this draft at the QB position would step in immediately and be better than Clausen. An effective QB is more important than any other position in football. It's not reaching to take someone who's better than the guy you have.

I'd be okay with Gabbert or Newton at this point.

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 03:55 PM

I agree with them. Might not get another chance to draft a top QB prospect.


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