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#76 Millions

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 11:09 AM

F**k these rich muthafukkas just wanna drink some beer and watch football on Sundays.

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 11:18 AM

Gee, wonder how we became a super power sooo quickly, doing ALL WRONG??? Forget all those socialist countries that are going broke...

The premise in America is to use your skills, talent, and HARD WORK, to elevate yourself to where you want to be. We have billion dollar companies that started in garages. You want to see what we will be, look at Europe cause we are making the exact same mistakes they made. Trickle down does work, that is what gives people the motivation to take a chance rather than sitting on their arses for a government dole out...

BTW- I take college research (depending of subject matter) with a grain of salt, some are very liberal and some are very conservative. Usually 10 out 10 times their "research" reflects the professors (and colleges) line of political thinking...

Same with grant money, scientist don't get grant money to do fair research. It's a political game to prove (or disprove) what one party wants 9or don't want) that is in power. Usually, money is connected (and the end game) in some form or fashion, either form companies or tax payers or both.

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 11:50 AM

Gee, wonder how we became a super power sooo quickly, doing ALL WRONG??? Forget all those socialist countries that are going broke...

The premise in America is to use your skills, talent, and HARD WORK, to elevate yourself to where you want to be. We have billion dollar companies that started in garages. You want to see what we will be, look at Europe cause we are making the exact same mistakes they made. Trickle down does work, that is what gives people the motivation to take a chance rather than sitting on their arses for a government dole out...

BTW- I take college research (depending of subject matter) with a grain of salt, some are very liberal and some are very conservative. Usually 10 out 10 times their "research" reflects the professors (and colleges) line of political thinking...

Same with grant money, scientist don't get grant money to do fair research. It's a political game to prove (or disprove) what one party wants 9or don't want) that is in power. Usually, money is connected (and the end game) in some form or fashion, either form companies or tax payers or both.


I agree with you in ways. The thing is, greed is the overriding principle, and after hundreds of years people have figured out how to game the system. Politicians spend/raise enumerable amounts of money to get elected and get this funding by special interests in business and in labor. Money is political influence. That is why we have such economic disparity. It's also why we're slowly losing our grasp on being the best superpower around.

Trickle down doesn't work anymore, because it's not about sustainability or hard-work anymore once you're at the top. It's about greed, it's about making as much as you can as quickly as you can by any means regardless of anyone else. That's a generalization I know, and there are exceptions, but in large it is true or we wouldn't have such a disparity right now.

Using Europe as a reference is not helpful either, we need to strike our own balance here of regulation/economic freedom.

You're also viewing it as a black and white issue. Either we take this trickle-down big business favoring approach or everyone will sit on their ass waiting for a government hand-out. That's not how it is buddy, we need to find some middle ground. Businesses aren't looking out for sustainability past their own lives, that's why we outsource so much work to China. Because it's cheaper, and it will help your bottom line and your shareholders will be happy. On the flip side no one, outside of outlying radicals, want a wholly socialistic system where everything is divided equally. That doesn't make sense and never will because people aren't perfect and it destroys motivation in every way. We need billion dollar companies that start in garages, I think that's as great as you do.

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 12:11 PM

I hate this sh*t. It's such a farce.



'Billionaires are wealthy because they contributed value enough to society that is worth their billions.'

Then you back that up with a this piece of gold summation about why.

'People have what they have because they got it.'

Bullsh*t.

You live in a perfect world where people are compensated based on their value to society. You look at rich people and think to yourself they have their wealth because they contributed to society.

You cannot make broad generalizations like that. There are plenty of wealthy people who got their wealth by nefarious, but legal, means, or by being born into money, or getting lucky etc. It is possible for a person to work from nothing into wealth, but that is rare. Money begets money. In our country you can make a living moving money around to make more money.

Is JR a 'good' business man? Sure. One would have to say that based on his wealth. Does he deserve his money? Who the f*ck knows. Inventing Bojangles in my mind doesn't make a man deserve billions. It's a fugging chicken biscuit.


I'm waiting to hear about a better system. The world has lots to choose from and many of the socialist theories in play are falling apart before our eyes.

Also, you post stats like the top portion of the American populace holding so much of the wealth. Why not expand that notion to the world? You will find every bit of that disparity when you compare America to the rest of the world (http://en.wikipedia....ution_of_wealth). How much of your own wealth would you contribute to right this wrong? Do you think that it is right for you to compel your neighbor to make the same moral judgments with their earnings as you have with yours? Are you willing to open your books with your neighbors on your street in order to distribute your earnings equally? Are your neighbors justified to take any means necessary to see their own visions of equality realized?

The owners have done far more to advance the NFL than any player or fan will ever understand. That said, I can think of no one else more deserving of the lion's share of the monies generated by the league than them.

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 12:12 PM

mmmmm chicken Biscuitttt

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 12:13 PM

K you go bed now rest brain


Once again, subtlety is not your forte... next time I will write it out this way for you:

Me dun pickin on weetahds fo dee naht

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 12:26 PM

Y'all would be a lot richer if you'd spend your time thinking about what you ought to be doing instead of what everyone else ought to be doing.

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 12:27 PM

Y'all would be a lot richer if you'd spend your time thinking about what you ought to be doing instead of what everyone else ought to be doing.


We all might be a lot richer if we didnt post on the carolinahuddle.com while at work. :D

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 12:30 PM

I just see the juxtaposition of those who criticize the players for being so rich when many of them don't make $1M in their whole NFL career.

Let's be honest. The owners are lying to you when they say the NFL is losing money.


That can be true but I don't get what their possessions have to do with this. Are we supposed to be mad at them for having nice things? Do their large mansions make them devious or is it their character?

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 12:37 PM

We all might be a lot richer if we didnt post on the carolinahuddle.com while at work. :D


posting here is my job

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 01:54 PM

Trickle down economics is a joke. That mentality has led us to a ridiculous disparity between the wealthiest and the poor in our country.


I completely agree..

I've never seen so many "have nots" defend the "haves" desire to be first in line to get even more

people yell about how great this nation is.. meanwhile we are cutting teachers jobs and simultaneous defending people getting bonuses who work for companies that had to get bailed out with tax payer money

The US is ranked 18th out of 36 nations in education (http://askville.amaz...uestId=21721726), we import much more than we export... Sooner or later the guy coming in 18th place thats keeps shouting we're #1 starts to look foolish

the players should get every penny they can

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 02:09 PM

I completely agree..

I've never seen so many "have nots" defend the "haves" desire to be first in line to get even more

people yell about how great this nation is.. meanwhile we are cutting teachers jobs and simultaneous defending people getting bonuses who work for companies that had to get bailed out with tax payer money

The US is ranked 18th out of 36 nations in education (http://askville.amaz...uestId=21721726), we import much more than we export... Sooner or later the guy coming in 18th place thats keeps shouting we're #1 starts to look foolish

the players should get every penny they can


Depends on how you define education and how those stats are accrued. There are tons of stats on how education and medical practice are ranked throughout the world, but the WHO and other institutes are not exactly forthcoming with their raw data.

On that note... any idea on how much the US spends on libraries compared to the rest of the world? Care to see how much of them are supported by evil rich people?

Would you like to know?

http://www.oclc.org/...aryspending.htm

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 02:11 PM

How do these people live?


http://sports.espn.g...tory?id=6177574




Take back our league!!!


I dont get it, what's your point?? Why do these players deserve more money? If it wasnt for the owners capital and assets there wouldnt be an NFL. And if it wasnt for the NFL these goons would be working for 12$ and hour or be in prison, this whole thing is just ridiculous. It is legal to make money, I think some people forget that, all these players are just doing what lawyers and agents tell them to, greedy fugers cant be happy with 2 million a year and benefits for life? its a joke

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 02:19 PM

I dont get it, what's your point?? Why do these players deserve more money? If it wasnt for the owners capital and assets there wouldnt be an NFL. And if it wasnt for the NFL these goons would be working for 12$ and hour or be in prison, this whole thing is just ridiculous. It is legal to make money, I think some people forget that, all these players are just doing what lawyers and agents tell them to, greedy fugers cant be happy with 2 million a year and benefits for life? its a joke


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Posted 04 March 2011 - 02:43 PM

I dont get it, what's your point?? Why do these players deserve more money? If it wasnt for the owners capital and assets there wouldnt be an NFL. And if it wasnt for the NFL these goons would be working for 12$ and hour or be in prison, this whole thing is just ridiculous. It is legal to make money, I think some people forget that, all these players are just doing what lawyers and agents tell them to, greedy fugers cant be happy with 2 million a year and benefits for life? its a joke


wow. I mean this doesn't have any undertones at all.


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