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Not this UNC fan... he's good, but I don't know that he's as good as Wall... I need to see more... That being said, he wasn't the preseason NPOY like Singler, or the likely NPOY, like Smith... And nobody on Carolina is in that discussion... This team won't have anybody as a first (probably not second) team All-American... Duke has more than enough perimeter talent to fill the void, as Smith has shown... If you need to convince yourself that the loss of Irving, 3 months ago, is the reason you lost, go for it... Nolan Smith seems to have stepped in nicely at the point in the absence of Irving, so you'll never convince me Duke's 'best team ever' should've lost the ACC championship to a bunch of underclassmen that most of the Duke fans on this forum were making fun of all summer long... Duke fans on here have spent all season thumping their chests about how good this team is, which I'm sure makes this all the more bitter pill to swallow...

Actually HB was a preseason national All-American first time ever for a freshman. I agree Nolan has stepped up and played great but Duke is a lot better with Irving playing just like unc is much better with Marshall playing. unc has a lot of talent so don't try and downplay what you have, they underachieved last year and the beginning of the year and are finally playing the way they should have.

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KMarshall on First Take.. UNC getting some play on the air waves this AM..

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Actually HB was a preseason national All-American first time ever for a freshman. I agree Nolan has stepped up and played great but Duke is a lot better with Irving playing just like unc is much better with Marshall playing. unc has a lot of talent so don't try and downplay what you have, they underachieved last year and the beginning of the year and are finally playing the way they should have.

Definitely not downplaying what they've accomplished... Matter of fact, I'm revelling in it... What I AM saying is that nobody on this team, to my knowledge, is in the talks for NPOY or 1st Team AA... I know Barnes was a preseason AA, which if we're being honest, was probably a bit unfair, but whatever that's another discussion... And I'm by no means someone you can look to in order to downplay their talent level... That's what has been happening on here for over a year now by you, and other anti-UNC posters... So me downplay? Oh hell no...

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Definitely not downplaying what they've accomplished... Matter of fact, I'm revelling in it... What I AM saying is that nobody on this team, to my knowledge, is in the talks for NPOY or 1st Team AA... I know Barnes was a preseason AA, which if we're being honest, was probably a bit unfair, but whatever that's another discussion... And I'm by no means someone you can look to in order to downplay their talent level... That's what has been happening on here for over a year now by you, and other anti-UNC posters... So me downplay? Oh hell no...

I am confused, I have never downplayed the talent level, I said they underachieved last year and the beginning of the year. You have the most talent in the ACC, you have 3 guys averaging double figure points and the most talented front court in the league. So tell me where I ever downplayed the talent on your roster?

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I am confused, I have never downplayed the talent level, I said they underachieved last year and the beginning of the year. You have the most talent in the ACC, you have 3 guys averaging double figure points and the most talented front court in the league. So tell me where I ever downplayed the talent on your roster?

Do we really need to go back and start bumping threads about Kendall Marshall, and recruits that Carolina has coming in not being worthy, and so on and so forth?? You've trashed Marshall, you've trashed Zeller, you've trashed the UNC bigs as a whole, etc... Do you not remember saying that Marshall (and others on Carolina) get added to the McD's AA game only because of the school they pick? I'm sure Stan, Bleys, MC and others are chomping at the bit to go thread bumping for you... You can spin it into you saying they underachieved if you want, but you (and others to be fair) have spent the better part of the last 14 months or so railing Carolina for being down... Next you'll be backpedaling saying that Roy is a better coach than you've been saying if he wins the ACC COY... Now you'll take this entire statement, highlight one sentence, ignore the whole, and twist... It's what you do...

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Do we really need to go back and start bumping threads about Kendall Marshall, and recruits that Carolina has coming in not being worthy, and so on and so forth?? You've trashed Marshall, you've trashed Zeller, you've trashed the UNC bigs as a whole, etc... Do you not remember saying that Marshall (and others on Carolina) get added to the McD's AA game only because of the school they pick? I'm sure Stan, Bleys, MC and others are chomping at the bit to go thread bumping for you... You can spin it into you saying they underachieved if you want, but you (and others to be fair) have spent the better part of the last 14 months or so railing Carolina for being down... Next you'll be backpedaling saying that Roy is a better coach than you've been saying if he wins the ACC COY... Now you'll take this entire statement, highlight one sentence, ignore the whole, and twist... It's what you do...

The only heel I ever said anything bad about was Marshall, and that is because I watched him in high school. Thornton was better then Marshall in high school all you have to do is look it up. Marshall has played well with the talent he has around him at unc. You can go back and bump anything you want but i said Zeller was the best player on your team when some of your unc buddies said he was garbage. I questioned Barnes earlier in the year saying that he didn't seem aggressive and took bad shots but I said all he has to do is take better shots and he would be fine on offense. I have said all along the talent is there hell you 7 burger boys and the #1 recruit from last year they underachieved last year and the start of this year I have never wavered from any of that.

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So are burger boys good or bad? I'm getting conflicted vibes from you.

FTR, I've never thought that McDonald's AA are a good way to judge how good a recruit really is. It's not an exact science, but I think Rivals and Scout star ratings are a better indicator of how good a recruit might be.

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So are burger boys good or bad? I'm getting conflicted vibes from you.

FTR, I've never thought that McDonald's AA are a good way to judge how good a recruit really is. It's not an exact science, but I think Rivals and Scout star ratings are a better indicator of how good a recruit might be.

Getting a burger boy is more often then not a good thing, and they are 4 & 5 star players no matter what scouting service you use, so take it for what it is because none of it is an exact science.

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The reason I ask is because you seem to like to bring up how many "burger boys" Carolina has when evaluating their production.

To be selected as a McDonald's AA there is more to it than just being a good basketball player. They take other factors into it as well, as I understand it. (i.e. GPA, community involvement, etc.)

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The reason I ask is because you seem to like to bring up how many "burger boys" Carolina has when evaluating their production.

To be selected as a McDonald's AA there is more to it than just being a good basketball player. They take other factors into it as well, as I understand it. (i.e. GPA, community involvement, etc.)

I don't know what the criteria is but I do know that unc has 6 on their roster and Duke has 5 on theirs and the rest of the Acc all together has 4. Like I said we can't complain about not having talent when anybody in the league would gladly trade with either one of us.

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BUT, does the rest of the league want that giant target on their back like we do? I doubt it.

I think they would take the target to get some of the players that we get.

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