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[MattB]

Michael Lombardi was on Rich Eisen's podcast and he had some interesting things to say about Jimmy. Mainly that as bad as he was in games he was even worse in practice and that was a big reason Fox wouldn't name a starter until late in the week. Charles Davis is on it also and he says when was covering the team for Fox he heard from a lot of people that Jimmy "didn't get it" and that he wasn't a guy that would rally the offensive line.

Link here http://richeisen.nfl...and-nick-bakay/

They talk about the Panthers and the number one pick around 23 minutes in. They also talk about why we need to take a QB. Well worth a listen.

[vorbis]

yeah well, if he's getting that info from John Fox (and I think there's a decent chance he is), I'm not really going to stress too much about his evaluation of Jimmy Clausen. he's got a fresh start now.

[Panthers69473]

Jimmy will have a fresh start with the coaching staff. See how he looks in preseason if it's the same as last season bench him and that's that

[The Original SCP]

How can he be worse?

[Jackofalltrades]

I'm not defending Clausen by any stretch, but after watching Lombardi for a while now I can't think of many people who's opinion I respect less.

[CatMan72]

Jives with something Moose said, he said "sources" inside the Panthers (Smitty) told him the playbook was limited by Clausen's inability to grasp it.

[panthers55]

Jives with something Moose said, he said "sources" inside the Panthers (Smitty) told him the playbook was limited by Clausen's inability to grasp it.

Exactly. And Gantt said all though training camp and the preseason that in the competition for starter Moore was by far better and it wasn't even close.

[CRA]

I fully believe Clausen will get a fair evaluation/chance......and that will be the reason he gets burried on the depth chart and new blood brought in THIS season.

[Rags]

How can he be worse?

This was my exact thoughts when I saw the topic title.

[monstercat]

It's a smokescreen. In reality, everybody on the Panthers roster loves Jimmy. Brett Jenson told me so.

[Inimicus]

Jives with something Moose said, he said "sources" inside the Panthers (Smitty) told him the playbook was limited by Clausen's inability to grasp it.

Exactly. And Gantt said all though training camp and the preseason that in the competition for starter Moore was by far better and it wasn't even close.

Well Matt did have 2 years and a handful of starts with the playbook before he had to compete with Jimmy for the job.

Not saying that Jimmy will be better after this year but I think expecting him to be as comfortable with the playbook as a guy who has had 2 years with it is expecting a bit much.

[CRA]

Well Matt did have 2 years and a handful of starts with the playbook before he had to compete with Jimmy for the job.

Not saying that Jimmy will be better after this year but I think expecting him to be as comfortable with the playbook as a guy who has had 2 years with it is expecting a bit much.

yeah, but Matt Moore as an undrafted rookie looked signicantly better his rookie year (and he didn't have a stacked team around him in 07). Moore simply while not that good......always could function in the type offense Fox ran.

it all goes back to Clausen having David Carr syndrome.......same reason Moore as a undrafted rookie looked so much better than Carr in 07.

[MHS831]

Jives with something Moose said, he said "sources" inside the Panthers (Smitty) told him the playbook was limited by Clausen's inability to grasp it.

Or a lame duck coaching staff's inability to teach it.

Read between the lines. Clausen was not scared, because he sucked in practice where they do not hit the QB. He was confused. That is fixable. He was the #3 QB for much of camp and came into the season a 21-year-old kid not knowing if he was prepared or not. He wasn't.

[MHS831]

yeah, but Matt Moore as an undrafted rookie looked signicantly better his rookie year (and he didn't have a stacked team around him in 07). Moore simply while not that good......always could function in the type offense Fox ran.

Moore also sucked in 2010, worse than Clausen. His QB rating was lower, more ints in fewer games. I am telling you, the coaching staff did not care about 2011. Not one little bit. How much time do you think they dedicated to Jimmy Clausen until Moore was hurt?

[teeray]

Or a lame duck coaching staff's inability to teach it.

Read between the lines. Clausen was not scared, because he sucked in practice where they do not hit the QB. He was confused. That is fixable. He was the #3 QB for much of camp and came into the season a 21-year-old kid not knowing if he was prepared or not. He wasn't.

I thought he came from a NFL offense with similar verbiage??

And if he was confused but fixable with good coaching why wouldn't a QB we drafted that has better talent not be able to??