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#121 ncfan

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 01:22 PM

Stout secondary=poo if you can't get pressure on the QB.

CB is the last position you fill when building a defense. Just as WR is the last piece you put in when building an offense. Look at the last 5 drafts, of the CBs taken in the top of the first round.

2006 - Tye Hill
2007 - Darrelle Revis
2008 - Leodis McKelvin
2009 - Malcolm Jenkins
2010 - Joe Haden

The only one on that list that made a significant impact on his team, as a rookie, was Jenkins. Why? Because the Saints had already filled out the rest of their defense before drafting him.

You can even look at last year's draft alone. Joe Haden had a very negligible impact last year. The CB taken after him, Devin McCourty, went too the Pro Bowl. The difference, the Pats already had 10 other pieces in place on D.


So who do we take a DT?
The whole not taking a CB #1 is a weak argument. If Peterson is the BPA, take him. Peterson is the most highly touted Corner to come out in a While. He is a Freak at his position, similar to Peppers at DE Calvin Johnson at WR etc. Our division is FULL of big QB WR Combo's
ATL- Ryan-White
NO-Brees-Colston
TB-Freeman-Williams

A guy like Peterson who can Blanket those top WR does a Lot for a D. These QB's will have to check down to other WR's who we will have Gamble and captain munnerlyn on. With a Pass rush coming at them it will make it tough.
And yes we will have a pass rush even without drafting a top DL. Resigning CJ beside of Hardy plus the new DC is a HEAVY Blitz guy.

Go even farther back than 06
Since 2002 here are the DT's that have gone top 10
2002- John Henderson (9th), Ryan Sims (6th)
2003- Jonathon Sullivan (6th)
2004- none
2005- none
2006- none
2007- Amobi Okoye (10th)
2008- Glenn Dorsey (5th), Sedrick Ellis (7th)
2009- B.J. Raji (9th)
2010- Suh (2nd), Gerald McCoy (3rd)

Not many of these guys made a rookie impact either.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 04:17 PM

So who do we take a DT?
The whole not taking a CB #1 is a weak argument. If Peterson is the BPA, take him. Peterson is the most highly touted Corner to come out in a While. He is a Freak at his position, similar to Peppers at DE Calvin Johnson at WR etc. Our division is FULL of big QB WR Combo's
ATL- Ryan-White
NO-Brees-Colston
TB-Freeman-Williams


2010 in 2 games vs Panthers

Roddy White - 14 rec 141 yds 1 TD

Marques Colston - 12 rec 101 yds 0 TD

Mike Williams - 6 rec 122 yds 1 TD

Doesn't look like they were exactly lighting us up.

A guy like Peterson who can Blanket those top WR does a Lot for a D. These QB's will have to check down to other WR's who we will have Gamble and captain munnerlyn on. With a Pass rush coming at them it will make it tough.


At this point, Peterson is a liability in zone coverage, which is what we will be running the majority of the time.

And yes we will have a pass rush even without drafting a top DL. Resigning CJ beside of Hardy plus the new DC is a HEAVY Blitz guy.


If your DTs can't even beat a man one on one, let alone take up a double team, then your blitzes aren't going to make it home.

Go even farther back than 06
Since 2002 here are the DT's that have gone top 10
2002- John Henderson (9th), Ryan Sims (6th)
2003- Jonathon Sullivan (6th)
2004- none
2005- none
2006- none
2007- Amobi Okoye (10th)
2008- Glenn Dorsey (5th), Sedrick Ellis (7th)
2009- B.J. Raji (9th)
2010- Suh (2nd), Gerald McCoy (3rd)

Not many of these guys made a rookie impact either.


I'll give you that Sims, Sullivan and Raji didn't have a big impact their rookie years, but...

John Henderson - 13 GS 53 tkls 6.5 sacks

Amobi Akoye - 14 GS 32 tkls 5.5 sacks

Glenn Dorsey - 16 GS 46 tkls 1 sack

Sedrick Ellis - 13 GS 30 tkls 4 sacks

Ndamkong Suh - 16 GS 66 tkls 10 sacks

Gerald MccCoy - 13 GS 28 tkls 3 sacks

#123 WilkinsonDonnie

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 04:28 PM

Theres a good amount of depth in this shallow draft class which is why I suggest we address DT later. Id love to see us trade down and obtain more picks but Id be all for taking whatever Hurney and Gregory consider is the best player available.