146 replies to this topic

[Skew]

The players or the owners?

[Kevin Greene]

The fans.

[Grammer]

I can't make a judgement without seeing the books of the NFL teams.

[Grammer]

The fans.

i knew this poo was gonna show up

[jasonluckydog]

I'm with the owners.. Not a fan of unions to begin with. I thought the owners offer was fair.

[jasonluckydog]

The proposal we made included an offer to narrow the player compensation gap that existed in the negotiations by splitting the difference; guarantee a reallocation of savings from first-round rookies to veterans and retirees without negatively affecting compensation for rounds 2-7; no compensation reduction for veterans; implement new year-round health and safety rules; retain the current 16-4 season format for at least two years with any subsequent changes subject to the approval of the league and union; and establish a new legacy fund for retired players ($82 million contributed by the owners over the next two years).

It was a deal that offered compromise, and would have ensured the well-being of our players and guaranteed the long-term future for the fans of the great game we all love so much. It was a deal where everyone would prosper.

[Mr. Scot]

Same as always.


Mine.

[beach]

Depending on how long this bullsh*t persists, I may be done with the NFL. Fug em both

[countryboi]

I am on the side of FOOTBALL...that should be an option

[Stumpy]

I have been on the owners' side this whole time. Now that it has come to this, they can both go fug themselves.

We are the ones who are going to suffer while they bitch and moan about how to split OUR money.

[blackcatgrowl]

I think they both suck ass too, but I'm still slightly more inclined to go with the owners. They did seem to try a LITTLE (not much, just a little) harder to come to the table and seriously work this out.

[Stumpy]

I still want to see the owners come out on top, because I think it would be best for the game as a whole.

But, the owners brought this on themselves by signing off on a CBA with an unprecedented amount of revenue going to the players. And by not realizing, when giving the players that much, that the union would never willingly give back a cent of that. And by not having the foresight to see that, if the economy were to tank, they would have to start footing the bill for their opulent new stadiums.

If you really want someone to blame in all this, may I suggest Paul Tagliabue.

He pushed this deal hard to the owners. He knew he was about to retire, and wanted to protect his legacy of labor peace. Upshaw knew this, and rightfully went for as much as he could get. The owners were idiots for agreeing to it, but it was Tagliabue who negotiated and brokered this deal.

Edited by Stumpy, 12 March 2011 - 02:19 AM.

[pantherclaw]

Don't really have a side.

I know this, the players have no business seeing the books of each of the 32 teams.

That would be like me asking to see the books for the company I work for, and then demanding a new pay wage based on that.

They don't need to see anything more than they have.

It's als clear to me the players union never intended to stay in good faith. they were going to decertify regardless.

The owns are making more than a fair offer.

Either way...I just want to see them come to a resolution before mid july...as it's clear there won't be one before the draft.

[The Original SCP]

Don't care; just want it worked out. Both sides share the blame for even allowing it to get this far. How long have we known this was coming and they wait until the last minute to try and reach a deal?

[Humble Dew]

Human nature is to wait until it's too late.