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Source: Panthers leaning to stick w/Clausen & pick Dareus

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The Carolina Panthers have always been the OK team with a good running game, good defense and no franchise QB. Those who continue to forget that fact are doomed to repeat it.

ANY pick is a roll of the dice, any player or FA is a risk. If Cam or Gab or Mallett have a 60-50% chance of being a franchise QB you make that pick.

Exactly. I hear Palmer's name thrown around a lot on this board but whats to say he won't come here and flop or become as fragile as glass. There is no guarantee in football.

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yeah but moore could actually throw to the receivers. Clausen threw the ball to mike goodson all day. honestly, the receivers were getting open at the end of the year, clausen just would not pull the trigger and throw to anyone with someone within 3 yards of them. his indecisiveness and overly cautious playing style makes me hate him.

That is called 'rookie style'. It happens to 99% of all QBs their first year.

But ultimately it's the QBs measure of progress that determines their worth.

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So let's see Cam can't start and needs to sit and learn becasue it would be disastrous, yet Jimmy isn't allowed the luxury and is forced to start under the worst possible conditions and fails and he is a bust.

Jimmy was scared. You can't "fix" that (i.e.David Carr).

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Are you all really blind to the fact that the only real difference in last year's offense and the previous few years was that: Smitty was a little older, we didn't have Moose beside him, Jake Delhomme (a below average QB) was gone, and our OL was inconsistent?

Matt Moore should have actually been the guy, but our WRs couldn't get open like they used to. Our OL couldn't keep him on his feet for more than 3 plays in a row. The lame duck staff called horrible plays.

Enter the rookie scapegoat. Boo... hiss... all his fault!

WRs had zero problems getting open when Clausen was on the bench....

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I guess drafting Dareus would be okay. But, so is going 5-11.

Sounds like the coaches may have changed but the philosophy hasn't. Don't take risks, be happy we have a franchise, thank you NFL (suck, suck, suck).

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Jimmy was scared. You can't "fix" that (i.e.David Carr).

Nonsense, what a ridiculous comparison.

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Nonsense, what a ridiculous comparison.

Scared is scared. You can't play that way and be successful.

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Nonsense, what a ridiculous comparison.

your right, David Carr was better as a rookie than Clausen. Took Carr a few years to develop the style that Clausen has right out of the gates.

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If your franchise has drafted a QB you believe is the future "with some grooming" then you say that. You don't constantly talk about finding a franchise QB to anyone willing to listen. Rivera is just being polite by throwing that line in there about being on the roster.

Clausen is a project. A new offense (w/ possibly less of an offseason) ain't the place for a project like Clausen.

Rivera can't afford to start off his career continuing the dysfunction we saw last season. Too easy of a fix to continue to let that occur.

If Rivera drafts Cam he won't start week 1. They will bring in someone to get the offense established while Cam learns. Clausen isn't that QB....Clausen is a project where they need to figure out if he even deserves a roster spot as a backup.

All rookie QB's are projects to one extent or another... Rivera does need to show some improvement from the offense we saw last season but it's not a "make or break" year for him and he certainly won't be blamed if Clausen struggles again since he inherited Clausen.

I don't think any rookie QB should be asked to start week 1, I think that's unfair and foolish. It's also unfair and foolish to decide that Clausen can't be a good starting QB after one season... takes at least 3 years to fully evaluate.

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To be a dominant QB you have to have that warrior spirit that "it" that Manning , Brady and even Brees has. Do you think Jimmy can buy one or go to the Wizard and beg him one?

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That is called 'rookie style'. It happens to 99% of all QBs their first year.

But ultimately it's the QBs measure of progress that determines their worth.

so if a qb shows no progression in 10+ games, what is his worth?

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All rookie QB's are projects to one extent or another... Rivera does need to show some improvement from the offense we saw last season but it's not a "make or break" year for him and he certainly won't be blamed if Clausen struggles again since he inherited Clausen.

I don't think any rookie QB should be asked to start week 1, I think that's unfair and foolish. It's also unfair and foolish to decide that Clausen can't be a good starting QB after one season... takes at least 3 years to fully evaluate.

yes, they are all projects. Clausen is a legit project QB though.....nor does he appear to even fit in Chud's offense if he gets up to NFL speed. Pike and Clausen were horrible picks. Horrible picks b/c they drafted them knowing Fox was walking and no clue what the next coach would want. The sooner they move on from those two the better.

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