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Lmao the players have their wives crying for them now.

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Hey honey, I bet you had no issue cashing those checks did you? Oh and if thins are so horrible for your husband after 8 years or so in the league, why did he just sign to play even more years doing MORE damage to himself with Cleveland last year? You look at your husbands post career issues, his staph infections blah blah blah and when it came time he could retire....you looked at the paycheck and said keep bringing me the money.

My opinion on this issue is thus, tough shit. I don't believe anyone forced these guys into the 'slavery' of the NFL. All knew the risks, all keep re upping and taking that paycheck. If they don't put back some of those millions they make for post career life and issues, tough shit.
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I'll give you credit. You make no effort to hide your hatred of the players.

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[quote name='Carolina Husker']I'll give you credit. You make no effort to hide your hatred of the players.[/QUOTE]

looks like a lot of people have the tact to not say it, so I'll be blunt about it I couldn't care less about the long term health and well being of the players.

Frankly, it doesn't bother me one way or the other.

You know really thinking on it the way these players are forced to play football, against their will, is simply a travesty of the highest order. I mean, I just know that if given the option many would become an accountant. or would work at an animal shelter or become teachers or firemen or policemen etc.

But alas, Society has pushed them into careers that are dangerous for their health. Society has said to these poor, warriors "You have no choice! You must risk your safety!" and become multi millionaires in the process.

I thought this was America. I thought people had a choice. This whole situation makes me sick.

I thank God for this lockout and hope it is permanent. Only then will these brave, brave men be free of the slavery that is football.
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[quote name='Carolina Husker']I'll give you credit. You make no effort to hide your hatred of the players.[/QUOTE]
Its not hate.

Its not being fooled into thinking that they are somehow special and deserving of something that a guy who spent his life welding boat hulls together isn't.
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[quote name='Carolina Husker']I'll give you credit. You make no effort to hide your hatred of the players.[/QUOTE]

I could also see jealousy

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Someone needs to tell Fujita's wife to get back in the kitchen and make him a sandwich.
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[quote name='Highlandfire'][url]http://www.thenation.com/blog/159361/wish-nfl-wife[/url]

Hey honey, I bet you had no issue cashing those checks did you? Oh and if thins are so horrible for your husband after 8 years or so in the league, why did he just sign to play even more years doing MORE damage to himself with Cleveland last year? You look at your husbands post career issues, his staph infections blah blah blah and when it came time he could retire....you looked at the paycheck and said keep bringing me the money.

My opinion on this issue is thus, tough sh*t. I don't believe anyone forced these guys into the 'slavery' of the NFL. All knew the risks, all keep re upping and taking that paycheck. If they don't put back some of those millions they make for post career life and issues, tough sh*t.[/QUOTE]

I think the comments made directly to the article are very apt. If you have millions of dollars, there is NO reason that a COBRA plan after your career wouldn't easily cover you for the rest of you life. I am unaware of any health insurance policies that mandate 10s of thousands of dollars for family coverage every year.
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[quote name='Highlandfire']looks like a lot of people have the tact to not say it, so I'll be blunt about it I couldn't care less about the long term health and well being of the players.

Frankly, it doesn't bother me one way or the other.

You know really thinking on it the way these players are forced to play football, against their will, is simply a travesty of the highest order. I mean, I just know that if given the option many would become an accountant. or would work at an animal shelter or become teachers or firemen or policemen etc.

But alas, Society has pushed them into careers that are dangerous for their health. Society has said to these poor, warriors "You have no choice! You must risk your safety!" and become multi millionaires in the process.

I thought this was America. I thought people had a choice. This whole situation makes me sick.

I thank God for this lockout and hope it is permanent. Only then will these brave, brave men be free of the slavery that is football.[/QUOTE]

Right? I mean... having a free ride through a 4-year scholastic program doesn't help in your life after football at all ya know.

My favorite part:

[quote]And here they are, simply asking the men who profit from their work, to please look after their health, as they should have done throughout their career. They ask this so that someday, the young boy who chooses this path knows he will be protected the way he deserves[/quote]

Wait... she means the players which also made a ton of money can't take care of their own health?

NFL conditioning and medical care is the BEST in the world. Period. You can't ask for a higher level of concern for player health, because an injured player isn't going to play games.

The post-career health care is equvalent or better than what other people get from their companies in the rest of the world when they leave their job.

Entitlement America! Yay!
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This post is going to go so well.

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Until the military gets million dollar contracts for deployments, patrols, combat, rescue ops, etc, then I have no sympathy. These guys peruse glory and riches, or men and women in uniform peruse freedom for us and others. How many NFL vets are sporting prosthetic limbs because theirs was blown off on foreign soil for little more than minimum wage?

What about firefighters, cops and medics who go go into highly dangerous situations everyday, not just on Sundays to the benefit of others?

I'm not admonishing the owners either, but this is what's wrong with professional sports and our culture as a whole.
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I have zero sympathy....for EITHER of them.

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America's new mentality. and those that defend it.

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[quote name='Jangler']America's new mentality.[/QUOTE]

Bitching about people bitching?
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[quote name='Stroupe-a-loop']Bitching about people bitching?[/QUOTE]

No, well yes, but getting other people to pay for all your shit.
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[quote name='Jackofalltrades']Until the military gets million dollar contracts for deployments, patrols, combat, rescue ops, etc, then I have no sympathy. These guys peruse glory and riches, or men and women in uniform peruse freedom for us and others. How many NFL vets are sporting prosthetic limbs because theirs was blown off on foreign soil for little more than minimum wage?

What about firefighters, cops and medics who go go into highly dangerous situations everyday, not just on Sundays to the benefit of others?

I'm not admonishing the owners either, but this is what's wrong with professional sports and our culture as a whole.[/QUOTE]

That is also their choice. Vets, Firefighters, Cops don't get drafted so they are aware of the dangers associated. FYI Cops and Firemen have huge unions that look out for them just like the players.

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[quote name='Panthro']That is also their choice. Vets, Firefighters, Cops don't get drafted so they are aware of the dangers associated. FYI Cops and Firemen have huge unions that look out for them just like the players.[/QUOTE]

Are you suggesting that players don't make a choice because they are drafted and don't know the "dangers"? Really? Seriously?

The players have to declare their intent to enter the draft... I believe that's where the "Choice" is made.

As far as them knowing the risks, I'm sure the countless stories of players getting hurt, or knowing players that got hurt in college and high school, is plenty enough information to know they are putting their bodies on the line.

Sheesh.

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[quote name='blackcatgrowl']Are you suggesting that players don't make a choice because they are drafted and don't know the "dangers"? Really? Seriously?

The players have to declare their intent to enter the draft... I believe that's where the "Choice" is made.

As far as them knowing the risks, I'm sure the countless stories of players getting hurt, or knowing players that got hurt in college and high school, is plenty enough information to know they are putting their bodies on the line.

Sheesh.[/QUOTE]

No and as usual you missed the point completely

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[quote name='blackcatgrowl']Are you suggesting that players don't make a choice because they are drafted and don't know the "dangers"? Really? Seriously?

The players have to declare their intent to enter the draft... I believe that's where the "Choice" is made.

As far as them knowing the risks, I'm sure the countless stories of players getting hurt, or knowing players that got hurt in college and high school, is plenty enough information to know they are putting their bodies on the line.

Sheesh.[/QUOTE]

. . . I think he is saying cops, veterans, and firemen choose their careers of their own accord the same way that the players do.

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[quote name='Jackofalltrades']Until the military gets million dollar contracts for deployments, patrols, combat, rescue ops, etc, then I have no sympathy. These guys peruse glory and riches, or men and women in uniform peruse freedom for us and others.[b] How many NFL vets are sporting prosthetic limbs because theirs was blown off on fporeign soil for little more than minimum wage?[/b]

What about firefighters, cops and medics who go go into highly dangerous situations everyday, not just on Sundays to the benefit of others?

I'm not admonishing the owners either, but this is what's wrong with professional sports and our culture as a whole.[/QUOTE]
One immediately springs to mind. He lost a lot more than a limb tho.

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[quote name='Highlandfire']
You know really thinking on it the way these players are forced to play football, against their will, is simply a travesty of the highest order. I mean, I just know that if given the option many would become an accountant. or would work at an animal shelter or become teachers or firemen or policemen etc.

But alas, Society has pushed them into careers that are dangerous for their health. Society has said to these poor, warriors "You have no choice! You must risk your safety!" and become multi millionaires in the process.

I thought this was America. I thought people had a choice. This whole situation makes me sick.

I thank God for this lockout and hope it is permanent. Only then will these brave, brave men be free of the slavery that is football.[/QUOTE]

I lol'd at this

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[quote name='Panthro']No and as usual you missed the point completely[/QUOTE]

No, I think [U]you[/U] missed [U]Jackofalltrades[/U] point.

Yeah, Firefighters have unions, but do they get compensated anywhere close to what a Pro-Player gets? Are Pro-players in anywhere as close to being in the same risk category as a Firefighter? Do you see a nationwide strike by firefighters?

But please point out some more irrelevancies as usual. Don't let me stop you.

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Still way off.

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[quote name='Panthro']Still way off.[/QUOTE]

So, I pretty much shot down your response, and now we're going to play the mystery logic card?

[quote name='Stroupe-a-loop'] . . . I think he is saying cops, veterans, and firemen choose their careers of their own accord the same way that the players do.[/quote]

If Stroupe-a-loop is right, then my response is still 100% spot on.

If you care to explain it further, be my guest.

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[quote name='Inimicus']Its not hate.

Its not being fooled into thinking that they are somehow special and deserving of something that a guy who spent his life welding boat hulls together isn't.[/QUOTE]

Those guys breathing the fumes from welding and cutting metals suffer sever respiratory illness too. The difference is they didn't make multi million dollars doing it.

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It should be noted that none of us are on a coal mining message board talking about how much we enjoy what they do and we aren't down at the police station asking for autographs of our favorite patrolman every week.

Comparing professional sports to any other industry is pretty crazy.

Not taking sides, just saying.

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