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There you go introducing facts into the discussion. Totally ruined the fairy tale he was weaving.

Oh come on. While the previous poster was incorrect, Mizzou had to pass on a ton of 3rd and very longs, many, many more than Auburn. So sure, they ran it a ton, and they were moderately effective (4.6 YPA on the year which was 'only' 1.5 YPA below Auburns)...

but the problem with a lot of these statistical comparisons showing "poise under pressure" when you look at down and distance is that you ignore game factors... for instance, who is winning? who is losing? what's the score? what needs to be done?

ultimately, I can tell you this: Gabbert has lead his team to victory when behind with his arm primarily. He makes plays when he needs to any way he can - his legs arguably won them the game against Oklahoma - and he's a great field general. He has things to work on, because if he didn't, he'd go #1... but the same is true of Cam Newton. Neither are perfect.

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"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to mav1234 again."

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Losman: 6'2, 217, never hit over 60% when he started a full season, strong arm, low accuracy, in his best year had a 7.3 yards per throw. Threw 33 td passes and never had great intangibles.

Gabbert: 6'4, 234, hit 63.4% in his final year, strong arm, great accuracy, in his best year threw 8.07 yards per throw, has all the intangibles.

No comparison what so ever.

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Oh come on. While the previous poster was incorrect, Mizzou had to pass on a ton of 3rd and very longs, many, many more than Auburn. So sure, they ran it a ton, and they were moderately effective (4.6 YPA on the year which was 'only' 1.5 YPA below Auburns)...

but the problem with a lot of these statistical comparisons showing "poise under pressure" when you look at down and distance is that you ignore game factors... for instance, who is winning? who is losing? what's the score? what needs to be done?

ultimately, I can tell you this: Gabbert has lead his team to victory when behind with his arm primarily. He makes plays when he needs to any way he can - his legs arguably won them the game against Oklahoma - and he's a great field general. He has things to work on, because if he didn't, he'd go #1... but the same is true of Cam Newton. Neither are perfect.

First of all they threw 475 times, 190 on first down, 164 times on second down and 115 on third down. Of third and more than 7 he was 27 of 66 for 40% with 2 TDs and 3 Ints. So your ton of times is actually about 15% of the time.

When they were ahead 15 points he threw 5 TDs and 3 Picks, when the game was close- winning by 7 or less points he had 1 Td and 2 picks. When they were behind by less than 7 he had 4 TDS and 3 picks.

When the game is on the line he is average or below at best.

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First of all they threw 475 times, 190 on first down, 164 times on second down and 115 on third down. Of third and more than 7 he was 27 of 66 for 40% with 2 TDs and 3 Ints. So your ton of times is actually about 15% of the time.

When they were ahead 15 points he threw 5 TDs and 3 Picks, when the game was close- winning by 7 or less points he had 1 Td and 2 picks. When they were behind by less than 7 he had 4 TDS and 3 picks.

Something is wrong here. We're looking at very different stats.

ESPN's splits claim that when they were leading by under 7 points, he had 7 TDs, 1 INT. I bet you can guess when that one INT was :(

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First of all they threw 475 times, 190 on first down, 164 times on second down and 115 on third down. Of third and more than 7 he was 27 of 66 for 40% with 2 TDs and 3 Ints. So your ton of times is actually about 15% of the time.

When they were ahead 15 points he threw 5 TDs and 3 Picks, when the game was close- winning by 7 or less points he had 1 Td and 2 picks. When they were behind by less than 7 he had 4 TDS and 3 picks.

When the game is on the line he is average or below at best.

ESPN's splits claim differently, so maybe we're looking at something else. I certainly remember him taking the lead more times than once with his arm, but... Seems like our splits are quite different.

ESPN claims when he won by up to 7 he had 7 TDs and only 1 INT...

Another reason not to trust stats I guess :D

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You must have been looking at Newton's stats. Here are Gabberts- 4TDs and 3 Ints when behind by 7 or less.

http://www.cfbstats.com/2010/player/434/1017263/passing/situational.html

edit: uhh, I'm confused as poo and going to bed. ESPN is making my head hurt.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/splits?playerId=381364&year=2010

very different from there; at first I thought it was something it wasn't... now I'm just confused and tired. Good night.

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Why does this thing not track Newton's interceptions? lol

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