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Does everybody here at the very least agree that Clausen sucks?


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Posted 31 March 2011 - 01:10 PM

Look at their YPC in games that Williams and Stewart both played in. Williams far out performed Stewart. Not only did he have a better YPC, but he did it in the first part of the game against the fresh defense. Stewart would often come in more during the second half. These are the things you notice when you actually watch games, and don't just rely on stats.


Stewart plays hurt.....DeAngleo doesn't. Do you notice that when watching? I mean, it is a obvious difference when Stewart is healthy and hurt (or I should say hurt and just dinged). I think that explains part of it. Another part of it is Stewart's style of play works better when he gets a larger load and can punish.

The real arguement is that you claim a reason Clausen sucked is b/c Willams got hurt. I don't think there is anything to support that. The team has rushed for more yards when Williams went down. In fact, I would argue that Williams getting hurt helped Clausen. It gave Goodson more time and Goodson is a more friendly RB when you have a QB looking to checkdown every play (than anyone on the roster)

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 01:13 PM

The real arguement is that you claim a reason Clausen sucked is b/c Willams got hurt.


No, I didn't. I claimed that Williams is the best RB in the league, and that it hurt the team when he went out. I was arguing against your claim that it had no effect.

Clausen was a rookie. I am not going to pass suck or no suck judgment on him until he has at least one more season.

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 01:17 PM

I never said it was a logical reason for Clausen not performing well. His being a rookie is a logical reason for not performing well.

I was just saying that you cannot brush off losing a RB of Williams' caliber, and I stand by that. Stewart and Goodson are not as good as Williams. I will argue that Williams has proven to be the best back in the league. You cannot lose that, and assume to continue without any setback.


I think Williams peaked in 08. I don't think they lost THAT guy last year. Don't get me wrong I love Williams but he is going to be getting worse while Stewart gets better. If everyone is healthy now, I don't think Williams > Stewart. I think you see that when Stewart gets the starts and bulk of the load the past 2 seasons.

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 01:19 PM

I am not going to pass suck or no suck judgment on him


No homo?

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 01:22 PM

No homo?


Oh, I'm sure he sucks homo style...not from any personal experience, just that pre-draft premonition style that qualifies me as an expert.

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 01:28 PM

I think Williams peaked in 08. I don't think they lost THAT guy last year. Don't get me wrong I love Williams but he is going to be getting worse while Stewart gets better. If everyone is healthy now, I don't think Williams > Stewart. I think you see that when Stewart gets the starts and bulk of the load the past 2 seasons.


It's going to be interesting to see what we get out of Williams this season. I think his performances last season were just as impressive, if not more, than in the prior couple of seasons. Defenses knew exactly what we were going to do, yet he was still able to grind out 5ypc with at least 8 in the box and sometimes even 9 or 10. Maybe he got injured, maybe had said Fug this retarded ass offense. I don't know. You may be right, he could be on the down slope. I'm hoping the new regime will rekindle his spirit and he'll be right back in the swing.

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 01:40 PM

I agree that his performance sucked last season.

I am not ready to say whether he has the ability and fortitude to bounce back and be a solid QB in the NFL. Only time will tell on that one.

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 01:53 PM

It's going to be interesting to see what we get out of Williams this season. I think his performances last season were just as impressive, if not more, than in the prior couple of seasons. Defenses knew exactly what we were going to do, yet he was still able to grind out 5ypc with at least 8 in the box and sometimes even 9 or 10. Maybe he got injured, maybe had said Fug this retarded ass offense. I don't know. You may be right, he could be on the down slope. I'm hoping the new regime will rekindle his spirit and he'll be right back in the swing.


I just think his Memphis years might be catching up with him. Not sure we can count on a 28 yr old Williams for 16.

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 02:03 PM

I always thought he was too small and I never liked his attitude. He looks like a damn aids patient when he's in the pocket and since he refuses to get rid of the ball unless he's throwing it to the other team or the sidelines, that makes him a huge target for just an average pass rusher. I really want to support Jimmy, and I'm going to keep blindly supporting him just because I want him to succeed.

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 02:09 PM

How does an AIDS patient look in the pocket?

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 02:11 PM

How does an AIDS patient look in the pocket?


I didn't get this reference either. Magic Johnson played basketball, not football.