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#61 Ashor

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Posted 09 April 2011 - 03:34 PM

As soon as you said that Cam reminds you of JaMarcus Russell I realized you have no clue what the hell you are talking about so basically your opinion means absolutely nothing. Cam may be a bust but comparing him to Russell is idiotic.


If I was the first person you've ever heard that from, then you are obviously retarded. I was going to make a list of similarities but it has been done already. You are probably just a biased fan because you like Auburn and you are in denial about all the negativity surrounding Cam Newton.

Newton and Russell comparison

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Posted 09 April 2011 - 03:36 PM

Answer my question ashor

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Posted 09 April 2011 - 03:37 PM

If I was the first person you've ever heard that from, then you are obviously retarded. I was going to make a list of similarities but it has been done already. You are probably just a biased fan because you like Auburn and you are in denial about all the negativity surrounding Cam Newton.

Newton and Russell comparison


...haha, ahh man. nothing like BR as a good source.

almost every one of those comparisons applies not just to Newton and Russell but Russell and any big armed QB coming out of college.

I don't even want Newton and I wouldn't bother with arguing he compares to Russell, because I don't think he does. At all.

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Posted 09 April 2011 - 03:40 PM

To me Cam reminds me of The Golden Calf of Bristol. So ask yourself if you were to remove Cam from this years draft and insert The Golden Calf of Bristol, would The Golden Calf of Bristol be the number 1 pick in this years draft. If you answer yes, then you validate one thing: Just how weak this QB class is.


I think that is exactly right. I feel as though The Golden Calf of Bristol had twice the success in college than Newton had but The Golden Calf of Bristol was a late first round pick. If Newton is projected to be a top overall pick, why was The Golden Calf of Bristol not as well? They're essentially the same type of quarterback with almost identical numbers in passing and rushing yards. What makes Newton so different than The Golden Calf of Bristol?

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Posted 09 April 2011 - 03:44 PM

Rodgers takes off more than any QB in the league outside of Vick. You guys try to downplay all the rushing yards he picks up because he kills your "only stiff pocket passers win Super Bowls theories". Rodgers is a running QB in a WCO.


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Posted 09 April 2011 - 03:44 PM

I think that is exactly right. I feel as though The Golden Calf of Bristol had twice the success in college than Newton had but The Golden Calf of Bristol was a late first round pick. If Newton is projected to be a top overall pick, why was The Golden Calf of Bristol not as well? They're essentially the same type of quarterback with almost identical numbers in passing and rushing yards. What makes Newton so different than The Golden Calf of Bristol?


The Golden Calf of Bristol cam out in a better qb class for 1. next we vist The Golden Calf of Bristol's awful throwing motion and footwook. some(mel kiper) projected him as a H back. The Golden Calf of Bristol has pretty good arm strength,cam has great. The Golden Calf of Bristol runs with power(ran a 4.7 40) cam runs with power and decent speed(4.56).

I think cam is even more accurate than The Golden Calf of Bristol coming out as bad as that might seem,cam is just a all around better qb prospect than The Golden Calf of Bristol.

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Posted 09 April 2011 - 03:45 PM

Steve Young was not a pure passer, and so isn't Big Ben. So how do you figure?


Steve Young and Ben Roethlisberger aren't running quarterbacks like Cam Newton either. Steve Young ran the ball for an average of 50 times a year, Ben averages 30 attempts a year. On the other hand, Newton has an average of 25 a game. Difference is those two guys didn't rely on their rushing for yards and touchdowns, they just scramble to get out of trouble but throw the ball. If Cam is out of the pocket there is a small chance he is going to throw it.

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Posted 09 April 2011 - 03:46 PM

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Newton ran it 25 times a game on average.

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Posted 09 April 2011 - 03:49 PM

Not to mention that our franchise rarely if ever drafts quarterbacks and especially in the first round. Clausen fell in our laps in the 2nd round but before that, our highest drafted quarterback was something like Kerry Collins back in 1956.

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Posted 09 April 2011 - 03:51 PM

I think that is exactly right. I feel as though The Golden Calf of Bristol had twice the success in college than Newton had but The Golden Calf of Bristol was a late first round pick. If Newton is projected to be a top overall pick, why was The Golden Calf of Bristol not as well? They're essentially the same type of quarterback with almost identical numbers in passing and rushing yards. What makes Newton so different than The Golden Calf of Bristol?


Cam Newton's passer rating... The highest in NCAA history at 188.5.
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