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Bucs To Cut Talib?

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God Damnit. I feel that I am talking to a group of 14 year olds.

Talib had red flags coming out of college.

Newton has red flags coming out of college.

Tampa Bay drafted him any way hoping that he would change.

Talib did not. And by the time he got into the fight at the seminar he was already on the team.

I am not saying that Newton is or is not a saint, but I am telling you all that teams pay attention to red flags when drafting a player this high in the draft......AS THEY SHOULD. Red flags are just that, past problems that you have to do your due diligence on to make sure that they are just that.....Past Problems.

For fugs sake.

There are different levels of red flags. Not all are the same. So in fact you are unintentionally comparing them by indirectly saying all red flags a college player has going into the draft are on the same level. They're telling you they're not. You came into this thread and brought up Cam. What did you expect?

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willing to play for league minimum??

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Shooting people= stealing laptops.

Did Talib shoot, stab, or rape anyone coming out of college?

No. There were just some red flags in is past, just like Cam.

I am not comparing stealing laptops to violent crime, I am merely stating that scouts and owners of NFL teams pay attention to ALL red flags, and for good reason.

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And people wonder why Cam Newtons "red flags" are so important.

That was your original post. Way to be a Cam hating troll and completely derail the OP's thread.

As for Talib no thank you.

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Sorry, but a few of the posts here are an absolute joke.

First of all, Cam was not a serial stealer of laptops, he bought one that was hot. And yes, he gave a quote saying he wanted to be an "icon".

Some of you really need to get a grip.

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I am merely stating that scouts and owners of NFL teams pay attention to ALL red flags, and for good reason.

Then why bring up Cam at all and just state that? you think Cam is going to end up killing someone because he stole a laptop?

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Did Talib shoot, stab, or rape anyone coming out of college?

No. There were just some red flags in is past, just like Cam.

I am not comparing stealing laptops to violent crime, I am merely stating that scouts and owners of NFL teams pay attention to ALL red flags, and for good reason.

I agree, scouts and owners should pay attention to red flags. But what's ridiculous is the amount of attention some people give Cam's. This thread is a good example. There is no reason why we should be talking about him. But everything he does is put under a microscope, taken out of context, or exaggerated beyond reason.

I understand what you are trying to say but at the same time, just put it to rest.

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regardless of who goes after talib, the dude is going to be suspended for AT LEAST a few games next year.

waste of money on a guy that won't play.

Is anyone happy that we didn't go after Santonio Holmes? I'm not.

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There are some players in the NFL right now who did, by some poor judgement or bad behavior, kill someone or be around a killing. They are still playing (Leonard Little, Dante Stallworth, and then the next annoited HOF LB, Ray Lewis).

There are many others who beat their (insert relationship here).

There was a member of the Panthers o-line, picked up from JAX, and I can't remember his name at the moment, convicted of physical child abuse, both he AND his wife and I met both of them and thought they were nice people...apparently, they weren't.

...others congratulated college, yes college, and could not read (anyone remember Dexter Manley?)....wonder how that happened?

Sometimes the owners can do something, sometimes they can't because of the Union.

Sometimes, they just don't. Steve Smith, after the first broken jaw of a teammate, should have been cut. He wasn't. He did it again. Should have been cut, he wasn't.

I guess it's a matter of opinion with violence as to whether it is a red flag, or you know, just boys being boys.

My point with all this is simply that thinking there are players in the NFL now, that perhaps didn't show red flags in college, that don't have red flags now, is crazy and most owners/gms, don't care. Can they play ball, ok, that's all that matters.

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Marvin Harrison killed a guy. (allegedly)

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wYeah, forgot about that little episode.

I just find it so funny that people talk about 'character' issues in college when most times, these big schools just pass on players anyway.

If anyone expects choir boys in the NFL, then go to BYU and get them...and even BYU had McMahon..please.

Otherwise, it's a total crap shoot on character, and what is character anyway, I mean, who thinks Brett Farve's image of playing through his Father's Death, his wife's breast cancer, and became just the icon, that the little cell phone episode was the first time that happened, I mean come on.

We'd all like our sports heros to be somehow greater in character than we are, but, just isn't factual. If anything, athletes have had things handed to them their whole lives because they can play a game and they are very narccistic (sp).

I somehow think the truest picture of the NFL was 'North Dallas Forty' and the old ESPN series, 'Playmaker'.

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Did Talib shoot, stab, or rape anyone coming out of college?

No. There were just some red flags in is past, just like Cam.

I am not comparing stealing laptops to violent crime, I am merely stating that scouts and owners of NFL teams pay attention to ALL red flags, and for good reason.

I am not disagreeing with you, but....did Marvin Harrison have any "red flags"?

edit: damnit CAVSS!!! *must read all thread before posting*

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