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I just started the first book yesterday...so far from what I've read, Joffrey is just as much of an asshole in the book..dudes facial expressions alone are enough to scare me just watching it...I think he's doing a good job, imo

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I think they did a great job with Theon sacking Winterfell. After the death of Ned Stark, GRRM probably will never out-shock the readers again quite like that, but this was pretty sudden in the show of the non-readers I watch it with. In the book, he conspires on his way to Winterfell for a few chapters before landing there, so the shock isn't nearly as big.

Re-watched it last night, and still think Alfie and Jack pull off Theon and Joff so well. Again, there really is no true villain or hero in the books. Joffrey is just an idiot and Theon is incredibly conflicted. Casual viewers might not have picked up on the fact that the Starks kidnapped Theon at an early age, but Theon looked up to Ned like his real father (Balon, his real dad, is a total dick to Theon btw). He obviously doesn't want to truly hurt or kill anyone, and wants to run Winterfell like Ned did (He doesn't decapitate Rodrick in the book, but I liked the change as it kind of built his arc). Going to be interesting to see how they play out both characters.

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My favorite characters after the 5th book in no particular order:

Reek, Littlefinger, Varys, Tyrion, Jaime.

Jofferey is the closest thing to a human villain in the series that I am aware of. You can polish it by saying he's an antagonist, but just because it doesn't fit the familiar archetype of villain/hero doesn't mean he isn't one.

There have been plenty of real life villains.

Hitler was just misguided I suppose.

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you better spell his name right or he'll cut off your hand

my favorites after ADWD: Tyrion, Jamie, Reek, Arya, Varys, Brienne, and The Hound.

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What characters in the series do you think are as close to untouchable to dying? Also, who do you think is definitely dead at the end of the series (assuming he doesn't kill off everyone).?

My untouchables are:

Arya

Tyrion

Dany

Bran and Jaime are maybes.

Then again, I thought Jon Snow was untouchable, but it looks like he's dead.

My dead by the end:

Cersei

Baelish

Stannis

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Also, I thought The Hound was supposedly dead?

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@sapper

You do know there is a spoiler function availabe just to the left of the font selection dropdown menu in your post editor, right (special BBCode dropdown menu)? There is also a different thread marked for book spoilers if you search for it. Just sayin'. All the unnecessary blank screen scrolling is annoying.

The Hound doesn't die until after the red wedding IIRC. The death was never actually confirmed in black and white the best I can remember (it's been a few years). Much like Caetlyn, Brienne and possibly Jon Snow, you never know with GRRM.

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you can also spoiler /spoiler with both words bracketed as I just did here.

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@sapper

You do know there is a spoiler function availabe just to the left of the font selection dropdown menu in your post editor, right (special BBCode dropdown menu)? There is also a different thread marked for book spoilers if you search for it. Just sayin'. All the unnecessary blank screen scrolling is annoying.

The Hound doesn't die until after the red wedding IIRC. The death was never actually confirmed in black and white the best I can remember (it's been a few years). Much like Caetlyn, Brienne and possibly Jon Snow, you never know with GRRM.

Test

you can also spoiler /spoiler with both words bracketed as I just did here.

Ahh much appreciated - I usually post on my phone so didn't see those.

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anyone else think the guy who promised to take back winterfell for Robb seemed sketchy/traitorous?

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