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#25 BountyHunter

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 12:16 PM

I just want Bill Polian results. Not Matt Millen's.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 12:17 PM

How do you know he will sit the bench all year? you have the ear of Rivera?

I know it's what Rivera and Hurney both would prefer because they've expressed that rookie QBs starting early isn't good. It's one of the reasons they defend Clausen.

That, plus two of the three prospects we're looking at will require time to transition to an NFL offense, and the third is an idiot.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 12:18 PM

A punt is a good play

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 12:18 PM

You would think after all the complaining about the conservative nature of the John Fox era people here would be more apt to take risk. However from a lot of comments and post it seems like John Fox is still here.


Drafting a cornerback , DT at #1?
We need a traditional pocket passing QB.
Complaining that a QB made a play to ice the game instead of taking a knee?
Tanking the year so we can get a better QB(arguably) next year?
Hoping that our horrible QB play from last year was just bad play calling?


Or maybe it's just me reading into things..........


So change just for change sake? BTW Pittsburgh has been 'conservative' for decades now. Who has the most rings?

Yes pocket passer as Dual college threats will NEVER make it in the NFL, NEVER! Now put down the fuging madden and join reality

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 12:20 PM

Pittsburgh wouldn't be shiit without Big Ben. Good defense or not.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 12:22 PM

I don't think that you can label people that don't want Cameron as being conservative.

AJGreen is the most dynamic offensive talent in the draft in my opinion, that's why you take him. I feel that the team isn't going to win right away anyhow so the team should build for the future with great talent. AJ Green was one of the top recruits out of HS and has kept his game at a high level while improving each and every year. He is the closest that this draft has to a can't miss prospect. That doesn't make me conservative because I want the Panthers to pick him over Cameron.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 12:33 PM

I don't think that you can label people that don't want Cameron as being conservative.

AJGreen is the most dynamic offensive talent in the draft in my opinion, that's why you take him. I feel that the team isn't going to win right away anyhow so the team should build for the future with great talent. AJ Green was one of the top recruits out of HS and has kept his game at a high level while improving each and every year. He is the closest that this draft has to a can't miss prospect. That doesn't make me conservative because I want the Panthers to pick him over Cameron.

The effort to label people who don't want Newton as something has been a pretty continuous one.

Not sure why folks can't just accept that people have differing opinions about who the best draft pick is and leave it at that.

(guess that's too much to ask) :nonod:

Edited by Mr Scot, 20 April 2011 - 12:40 PM.


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Posted 20 April 2011 - 12:37 PM

You would think after all the complaining about the conservative nature of the John Fox era people here would be more apt to take risk. However from a lot of comments and post it seems like John Fox is still here.


Drafting a cornerback , DT at #1?
We need a traditional pocket passing QB.
Complaining that a QB made a play to ice the game instead of taking a knee?
Tanking the year so we can get a better QB(arguably) next year?
Hoping that our horrible QB play from last year was just bad play calling?


Or maybe it's just me reading into things..........


I gotta agree. I'm ecstatic Fox is not the HC for this draft or else we all know we'd be going defense with his favorite position (CB) as arguably the top player. We'd be the first team in history to draft a DB #1 and it would be a huge mistake.

Then he'd probably have some pipe dream of developing Matt Moore or Jimmy Clausen...OR take another late round QB.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 12:41 PM

So change just for change sake? BTW Pittsburgh has been 'conservative' for decades now. Who has the most rings?

Yes pocket passer as Dual college threats will NEVER make it in the NFL, NEVER! Now put down the fuging madden and join reality



Ben Rothlisberger. He was drafted by the Steelers in the first round in the 2004 NFL Draft. Ever heard of him? He lives in reality too.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 12:46 PM

The effort to label people who don't want Newton as something has been a pretty continuous one.

Not sure why folks can't just accept that people have differing opinions about who the best draft pick is and leave it at that.

(guess that's too much to ask) :nonod:


It's not everyone Mr. Scot. Just like everyone who likes Newton isn't blind to the other issue on the team. However taking the safest most cautious route seems like repeating the same mistakes over and over again. I

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 12:48 PM

you all confuse being conservative with assuming Newton or Gabbert are guaranteed all pro's..

you can take a chance all you want, and if you succeed 1 out of 10 times, you failed 9.. but hey, YOU'RE A GOOOOOO GETTTTER!


I hope we draft Cam (and what that implies if we do).. however, you all are f**king stupid to assume everyone should just blindly accept that Newton or Gabbert will be true franchise QBs..

if people are concerned that they may not be, they aren't the dumb ones.. they are most likely the more logical ones.

To take a QB solely for the reason to be aggressive/take chances/whatever you want to call it is actually what is considered ignorant.



so in the same nature that this thread was made, let me go ahead and help you all assume I'm a Cam hater, despite what I've said in this thread.

The effort to label people who don't want Newton as something has been a pretty continuous one.

Not sure why folks can't just accept that people have differing opinions about who the best draft pick is and leave it at that.

(guess that's too much to ask) :nonod:


um, yeah.. I'm not so sure why there is this venomous desire to label people ignorant or conservative who may disagree that these QBs aren't going to pan out.

Grabbing a QB and him becoming a bust is going to hurt more than not having a QB.

Edited by bleys, 20 April 2011 - 12:51 PM.


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Posted 20 April 2011 - 12:50 PM

It's not everyone Mr. Scot. Just like everyone who likes Newton isn't blind to the other issue on the team. However taking the safest most cautious route seems like repeating the same mistakes over and over again. I

I wasn't really talking so much about you. I don't see you as making an effort to do that.

I disagree with your read on things though. I don't think making the judgment that the best player available at a need spot is someone other than one of the quarterbacks needs to involve fear or conservative thinking. I believe you can come to that conclusion on completely objective criteria (and I believe many have).

It might not be one you agree with, but it's a legitimate viewpoint.