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#151 Mr. Scot

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 11:17 PM

Quit beating around the bush and at least explain how that makes us better/Hope for the Future.

Do you think we will have the #1 pick each time. Sorry but I hope we never have the #1 pick ever again. Or anywhere near number one for that matter.

Already did. You guys can disagree if you want, but the explanation's there.

And do franchise QBs only come from #1 picks?

(you might wanna check recent drafts)

#152 Panthro

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 11:18 PM

Kurb has said my favorite line in regards to this thought process

For fug sake some of you are so terrified of failure it's disturbing.



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Posted 20 April 2011 - 11:19 PM

Again, we're allowed to go after quarterbacks via other methods.

My preference would be trade. Best options being Carson Palmer or David Garrard.

The free agent class if not as good. Only stopgaps, but I'd rather have that than a rookie getting thrown to the wolves.



We get none of those Quarterbacks Carson will be a Bengal and the Jaguars would be crazy to let garrard go.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 11:19 PM

You're assuming that Cam Newton does get us into the playoffs year in and year out. Why?

If Cam Newton can do it, why can't a rookie we draft next year do it? Why can't a FA we pick up? Or a guy on the roster? Hell, at least the later two have played an NFL down...


I'm assuming we have no idea what Cam Newton will do, just as no NFL team knows when picking a QB #1. I am saying that it is a POSSIBLITY that he does. Rookie we draft next year = crappy season this year. FA we pick up? did you not see that list of FA QB's???? A GUY ON THE ROSTER?!?!?! Yes, they did play a NFL down and did mind numbingly terrible at it.

#155 Mr. Scot

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 11:19 PM

Cam Newton is more on the potential side of a Peyton Manning or Philip Rivers. Not a David Carr or Jamarcus Russell.

In your opinion. I disagree (and I'm not the only one).

You're assuming that Cam Newton does get us into the playoffs year in and year out. Why?

If Cam Newton can do it, why can't a rookie we draft next year do it? Why can't a FA we pick up? Or a guy on the roster? Hell, at least the later two have played an NFL down...

Because if we don't get Newton, there will never ever be another good quarterback available again.

(apparently) :frown2:

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 11:21 PM

In your opinion. I disagree (and I'm not the only one).


Because if we don't get Newton, there will never ever be another good quarterback available again.

(apparently) :frown2:


Why wait? There is a potential SUPERSTAR right there in front of you, & he's ours for the taking. Grow a sack or go to Denver & meet up with Fox.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 11:21 PM

Kurb has said my favorite line in regards to this thought process

So the only people who want to win are the ones who want to draft Newton...is that right?

I could just as easily attribute unwillingness to go with Clausen or Moore to "fear" if I wanted to go that route too.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 11:23 PM

Cam Newton has NFL SUPERSTAR potential.

Sure he may bust, but that goes for every single player in the draft. Nobody else has near the upside at developing into a franchise player.

If the Carolina Panthers bitch out & pass on Newton, by either drafting elsewhere or trading down, it will be a monumental failure; regardless of how Cam Newton pans out.

High risk comes with high reward. Cam Newton may bust or become a decent NFL QB. However, 2-3 years from now he may be a superstar & the top QB in the league. Deny that all you want, but you're only kidding yourself.

Carolina should be running to the podium on the 28th, period.


Depends on what we trade down for. If we, for example, trade down to 5th, pick up a 2nd this year, a 1st in '12, 2nd in '12, and a 2nd & 3rd in '13 that would be a win.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 11:23 PM

Why wait? There is a potential SUPERSTAR right there in front of you, & he's ours for the taking. Grow a sack or go to Denver & meet up with Fox.

Mallett and Gabbert are "potential superstars" too. So are Peterson and Dareus.

Guess if you don't want them, you must just be a coward :frown2:

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 11:23 PM

Because if we don't get Newton, there will never ever be another good quarterback available again.

(apparently) :frown2:


Great strategy let's keep waiting. I mean it's netted us how many Super Bowls wins?

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 11:23 PM

In your opinion. I disagree (and I'm not the only one).


Because if we don't get Newton, there will never ever be another good quarterback available again.

(apparently) :frown2:


^ now out of actual, thought out responses that hold weight you have turned to this. You sir, have lost this one. you have given absolutely no valid reasons nor plans for the future except for making it painfully clear you should not be in control of any football operations for anything. Including Madden.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 11:24 PM

I talked a bit about a plan in a different thread (http://www.carolinah...tml#post3072748) but the general jist is:

1) If you aren't sold on Cam Newton, don't reach. Get a great DT, or hell, CB if you are sold on him. Now, if you're sold on Cam obviously you take him. But if they aren't, don't reach.
2) Bring a veteran in to camp in addition to Moore, Clausen, Pike. Do this regardless of if you draft Newton or not. We saw what happens when you go into a season with only one signal caller with any experience. Let's not do it again.
3) Reassess the QB situation next year, and see where we're at and what is available. If nothing else, continue building an amazing defense and searching for the QB that will take us where we need to be.

Edited by mav1234, 20 April 2011 - 11:27 PM.


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Posted 20 April 2011 - 11:25 PM

^ now out of actual, thought out responses that hold weight you have turned to this. You sir, have lost this one. you have given absolutely no valid reasons nor plans for the future except for making it painfully clear you should not be in control of any football operations for anything. Including Madden.

Actually, I've given several reasons, and options. And in response I get silliness like this :nonod:

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 11:26 PM

In my opinion, there's also something to be said for Cam really wanting to be a Panther

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 11:27 PM

I talked a bit about a plan in a different thread (http://www.carolinah...tml#post3072748) but the general jist is:

1) If you aren't sold on Cam Newton, don't reach. Get a great DT, or hell, CB if you are sold on him. Now, if you're sold on Cam obviously you take him. But if they aren't, don't reach.
2) Bring a veteran in to camp in addition to Moore, Clausen, Pike. Do this regardless of if you draft Newton or not. We saw what happens when you go into a season with only one signal caller with any experience. Let's not do it again.
3) Re-asses the QB situation next year, and see where we're at and what is available. If nothing else, continue building an amazing defense and searching for the QB that will take us where we need to be.

Pretty much.

(might want to reassess your re-asses though Mav) :eek:


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