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Jerry Rice: Accuracy, not race, the issue with Cam Newton

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[QUOTE]“I think the NFL is so much further now,” Rice said. “I don’t think race is a factor.”

Rice said he has met Newton and came away impressed, both with Newton’s attitude and with what an imposing physical specimen Newton is. But Rice said that there are legitimate questions about whether Newton has the tools to be a pro-style passer.

“It’s going to boil down to accuracy,” Rice said. “He’s going to have to be able to drop back, plant himself and deliver that football. During his workouts the ball was a little high, all over the place.”

Ultimately, that’s the only question that matters about Newton: Whether he can transition from a great spread-offense quarterback in college to a great pro-style quarterback in the NFL.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/21/jerry-rice-accuracy-not-race-the-issue-with-cam-newton/[/url]

seems like maybe some of us who had football-related questions about him weren't crazy after all. Not saying those questions will keep him from being drafted, but...
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20 pages minimum...

that's with modified thread style to show 20 posts per page.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand....


GO!

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Glad to hear there is an ex-player with common sense. As I have said before, if there was a purple alien QB that showed up to practice in a flying saucer that was going to be the next Peyton Manning - he would go #1.

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Well, the opinion of a black HOF receiver has to stand for something around here.

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[quote name='jtm']Glad to hear there is an ex-player with common sense. As I have said before, if there was a purple alien QB that showed up to practice in a flying saucer that was going to be the next Peyton Manning - he would go #1.[/QUOTE]

Have you actually said that before? If so, it's kinda funny. Truth is, an alien would never make it through government agencies to play football. Ya know, unless he had legal immigration papers, which seems unlikely!

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Of course he's not the finished product like many of us Cam believers have been saying he will have to put in the work to get better. Race becomes a factor IMO for those that believe he'll get his money,an might get lazy (look to the Russell comparisons).

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I'll take the word of a guy like Warren Moon who's actually played QB in the NFL and lived thru the experience vs. a guy like Jerry Rice who never played with one in the NFL. Respect his opinion, but he's in a dream world if he doesnt think the identity of a QB doesnt play into his perception. The QB position is basically the tool the NFL uses to market the game to certain fans. Change that dynamic, and the NFL is basically the NBA.
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Is he going to have Drew Brees like accuracy? No.

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[quote name='King Taharqa']I'll take the word of a guy like Warren Moon who's actually played QB in the NFL and lived thru the experience vs. a guy like Jerry Rice who never played with one in the NFL. Respect his opinion, but he's in a dream world if he doesnt think the identity of a QB doesnt play into his perception. The QB position is basically the tool the NFL uses to market the game to certain fans. Change that dynamic, and the NFL is basically the NBA.[/QUOTE]

bullsh|t

pure bullsh|t



..as usual
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As they pointed out in the combine though, he was late getting out from under center which threw off the rhythm of his drop back, plant, and throw... Because his feet were off, he tried to compensate with his arm and the throws were off. With coaching, this should be easily fixable - his delivery itself isn't an issue, and game film shows he's really accurate throwing it deep for the most part - which is what we need.

I don't think the workouts were determinant of his ability to become a great pro. He shows up on gamedays.
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Cam can do no wrong

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Its great to have accuracy but it doesnt determine how good of an Quarterback you will be. There are ways you win without having the best accuracy in the world.

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In game situations last year and stats show his accuracy is not that big of an issue like I've said his arm in general is underrated. Due to him having the skill to run over defenders like Adrian Peterson.

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For me the knock on Cam isn't his accuracy. I don't think you can learn a whole lot watching a guy throw 14 passes to receivers he's never played with.

I'd agree more with Jerry if he said he was concerned about the transition to much more complex, under center offensive schemes.

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I think its foolish to not think race is a factor, because that still exists and will never go away. HOWEVER....its important to look it at a case by case basis. Everyone that doesn't like Cam has their own reason, and doesn't automatically mean they don't want a black quarterback. There is still a stigma associated with the "black running QB" and the "running QB" / "athletic QB" in general, that isn't changing.

but what does my opinion matter, this thread will head toward 20 pages of worthless drivel anyway.
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[quote name='Proudiddy']As they pointed out in the combine though, he was late getting out from under center which threw off the rhythm of his drop back, plant, and throw... Because his feet were off, he tried to compensate with his arm and the throws were off. With coaching, this should be easily fixable - his delivery itself isn't an issue, and game film shows he's really accurate throwing it deep for the most part - which is what we need.

I don't think the workouts were determinant of his ability to become a great pro. [B]He shows up on gamedays[/B].[/QUOTE]
:yesnod:

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You mean his game isn't perfect right now??

Taking Newton is a risk. We should all know that. It'll take patience and hard work from him which I believe he is willing to do.

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Finally the voice of reason.

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I also like gabbert but i think newton will fit in with our offense better then Gabbert. Just my opinion.

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Jerry Rice > Warren Moon

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[quote name='eViL jEsTeR']Jerry Rice > Warren Moon[/QUOTE]

At QBing?

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Cam's accuracy is why Huddlers called him a "thug" and told us he should divorce himself from his dad and his family. Fix his accuracy and everyone who trashed him the past 3 months would've wanted him. LOL.

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[quote name='Panthro']At QBing?[/QUOTE]

No, at dancing with the stars.
(and seeing Newton for what he really is.)

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[quote name='King Taharqa']I'll take the word of a guy like Warren Moon who's actually played QB in the NFL and lived thru the experience vs. a guy like Jerry Rice who never played with one in the NFL. Respect his opinion, but he's in a dream world if he doesnt think the identity of a QB doesnt play into his perception. The QB position is basically the tool the NFL uses to market the game to certain fans. Change that dynamic, and the NFL is basically the NBA.[/QUOTE]

This is absurdity. Warren Moon was a good QB, sure. Jerry Rice played with one of the greatest QBs that has ever stepped on the football field. What, you don't think that he knows a little something about QBs, about winning, and about how things should be done?

Get over yourself.
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