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Predict out 2010 record with Newton as QB

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Then why draft cam if he won't improve the team now, and is gonna take 2-3 years to make this team a contender, WHEN we drafted clausen last season to do the same thing that cam will be asked to do.

Yea clausen was suppose to be the most pro ready QB in last years draft class, but he didn't get the oppurtunity to sit and adjust to the pro game, god forbid cam is thrown to the wolves his rookie season and we're stuck in the same situation we're in now bitching about drafting another QB 1st overall 2 years straight.

For the question about erasing 2010 out of our minds, and jimmy being in this years draft class...After Luck decided to go back to college clausen as a QB prospect (not athlete) would be the clear cut no. 1 QB in this draft and we would be drafting him over newton or blaine anyways.

So be happy we aren't paying him no. 1 pick $ and give him another chance, seems like the cam huggers are gonna be happy playing QB carousel year end and year out. Because cam isn't gonna produce worth a damn if he's stuck in the same situation matt and jimmy dealt with in 2010. Yea he's athletic and can scramble, but if double trouble couldnt evade defenders what makes you think a bigger slower target could. WE HAD NO PASSING ATTACK,,,CAM CANT BLAZE PAST 10 IN THE BOX...

Same reason the Bucs drafted Freeman.....rookie year is a time to learn and grow. Gotta give them that. This team is built to be a contender w/ average QB play......it doesn't require Peyton Manning/Aaron Rodgers type play to reach contending status.

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Same reason the Bucs drafted Freeman.....rookie year is a time to learn and grow. Gotta give them that. This team is built to be a contender w/ average QB play......it doesn't require Peyton Manning/Aaron Rodgers type play to reach contending status.

LOL damn you, always have answers for everything

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5-11 and pretty competitive late.

Agreed especially with us being competitive as a Rook I could see him showing potential.

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Cam with John Fox 5-11

Brady with Fox 10-6

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Cam with John Fox 5-11

Brady with Fox 10-6

Belichick with Cam 10-6

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How would Clausen be rated this year? He would be number 3 behind Newton and Gabbert?? Why, he has a number of leadership issues which made him drop last year. They would be the same this year. Add in that we know from experience they are true. If we could wind back the clock and pick again, I am positive we would have passed on both Edwards and Clausen. Part of what is making the situation so hard this year is that we ignored the red flags last year and got burnt. Hurney isn't ignoring them this time around just gauging how important they are versus the upside and positives.

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How would Clausen be rated this year? He would be number 3 behind Newton and Gabbert?? Why, he has a number of leadership issues which made him drop last year.

Not looking to argue, but curious - what leadership issues? Do you think any rookie in the NFL is considered a leader among vets?

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The problem for many folks is that they see Clausen's upside as severely limited while Newton's is much higher. The issue isn't how they would have played in 2010 but how they will play in 2011 or in five years.

This is my whole point - upside severely limited based on what? So if we draft Cam and he starts in 2011 and we go 2-14 will everyone want us to draft Luck in 2012? You can't argue on one side that we need to give a player time to develop and draft for the future and then turn around and throw a guy to the wolves after one year in a situation that Tom Brady would probably not have done much better.

I am just trying to understand peoples' measuring stick for success. The same people that are stating we should draft Cam and give him time to develop are ready to give up on Clausen after one year. Makes no sense especially considering the fact that drop back passers like Clausen have historically been more successful in the NFL v. mobile qb's like Newton.

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My prediction for next year with Newton would be no different than my prediction without him.

I believe if he is drafted, he won't play his rookie year.

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So why is everyone ready to mortgage the farm on Newton when he wouldn't have done any better than Clausen last year? Point is - Clausen wasn't given a fair shake as we all know. Newton seems a lot riskier than Clausen because we will have to pay him a lot more money and he is a lot farther behind as far as the pro language.

Agreed 100%. To draft Newton would be a big mistake.

Bring in Dareus and give Claussen at least one more year.

Manning's 1st year was terrible. It takes time to learn

the NFL.

We don't need Newton but if we had him he would do

no better then 3 - 13.

Pass on Newton, there are better guys out there who

will help our Panthers win.

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I am still waiting for a Cam fan to explain to me why we should draft him and allow 2+ years for him to develop and learn the system when Clausen was only given a couple games to learn.

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dumb.

if newton is drafted. he'll be sitting on the bench and not playing.

next thread.....

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