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#16 teeray

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 10:00 AM

Cam would win a couple of games just off his will to win IMO.

However, I don't see Cam setting the world on fire next year. If he even plays he will struggle, much the same way that most rookie QBs struggle. Drafting him wouldn't be about next year, it would be about the long term success of the franchise.

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 10:03 AM

Cam would win a couple of games just off his will to win IMO.

However, I don't see Cam setting the world on fire next year. If he even plays he will struggle, much the same way that most rookie QBs struggle. Drafting him wouldn't be about next year, it would be about the long term success of the franchise.


I agree 100%. No one has answered my question - why are we treating Clausen different? I am not saying he is our future, but I am saying you can't say he is NOT our future after one season.

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 10:03 AM

*sigh*

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 10:09 AM

19-0

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 10:10 AM

Why is it not fair? 90% of Panther fans are ready to throw Clausen to the wolves and he did not know any of the personnel, the offense, he is outside his well-oiled machine, and lastly he transitioned to the NFL.


The problem for many folks is that they see Clausen's upside as severely limited while Newton's is much higher. The issue isn't how they would have played in 2010 but how they will play in 2011 or in five years.

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 10:10 AM

Hopefully we'll sign a veteran QB as a stop-gap and Newton will red shirt this year.

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 10:11 AM

Alright play along for my next question. Now erase 2010 from your memory and let's assume Clausen is coming out this year in the 2011 draft and we have the #1 pick. How would Clausen be rated v. the other qb's in the draft?


Gabbert
Clausen
Newton
Locker
Mallett
etc

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 10:15 AM

if he started 16 games? 1-15.

if he started the same number as Clausen? 2-14.

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 10:21 AM

Cam would win a couple of games just off his will to win IMO.

However, I don't see Cam setting the world on fire next year. If he even plays he will struggle, much the same way that most rookie QBs struggle. Drafting him wouldn't be about next year, it would be about the long term success of the franchise.


Then why draft cam if he won't improve the team now, and is gonna take 2-3 years to make this team a contender, WHEN we drafted clausen last season to do the same thing that cam will be asked to do.

Yea clausen was suppose to be the most pro ready QB in last years draft class, but he didn't get the oppurtunity to sit and adjust to the pro game, god forbid cam is thrown to the wolves his rookie season and we're stuck in the same situation we're in now bitching about drafting another QB 1st overall 2 years straight.

For the question about erasing 2010 out of our minds, and jimmy being in this years draft class...After Luck decided to go back to college clausen as a QB prospect (not athlete) would be the clear cut no. 1 QB in this draft and we would be drafting him over newton or blaine anyways.

So be happy we aren't paying him no. 1 pick $ and give him another chance, seems like the cam huggers are gonna be happy playing QB carousel year end and year out. Because cam isn't gonna produce worth a damn if he's stuck in the same situation matt and jimmy dealt with in 2010. Yea he's athletic and can scramble, but if double trouble couldnt evade defenders what makes you think a bigger slower target could. WE HAD NO PASSING ATTACK,,,CAM CANT BLAZE PAST 10 IN THE BOX...

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 10:25 AM

Then why draft cam if he won't improve the team now, and is gonna take 2-3 years to make this team a contender, WHEN we drafted clausen last season to do the same thing that cam will be asked to do.

Yea clausen was suppose to be the most pro ready QB in last years draft class, but he didn't get the oppurtunity to sit and adjust to the pro game, god forbid cam is thrown to the wolves his rookie season and we're stuck in the same situation we're in now bitching about drafting another QB 1st overall 2 years straight.

For the question about erasing 2010 out of our minds, and jimmy being in this years draft class...After Luck decided to go back to college clausen as a QB prospect (not athlete) would be the clear cut no. 1 QB in this draft and we would be drafting him over newton or blaine anyways.

So be happy we aren't paying him no. 1 pick $ and give him another chance, seems like the cam huggers are gonna be happy playing QB carousel year end and year out. Because cam isn't gonna produce worth a damn if he's stuck in the same situation matt and jimmy dealt with in 2010. Yea he's athletic and can scramble, but if double trouble couldnt evade defenders what makes you think a bigger slower target could. WE HAD NO PASSING ATTACK,,,CAM CANT BLAZE PAST 10 IN THE BOX...


Same reason the Bucs drafted Freeman.....rookie year is a time to learn and grow. Gotta give them that. This team is built to be a contender w/ average QB play......it doesn't require Peyton Manning/Aaron Rodgers type play to reach contending status.

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 10:27 AM

Same reason the Bucs drafted Freeman.....rookie year is a time to learn and grow. Gotta give them that. This team is built to be a contender w/ average QB play......it doesn't require Peyton Manning/Aaron Rodgers type play to reach contending status.


LOL damn you, always have answers for everything

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 10:32 AM

5-11 and pretty competitive late.

Agreed especially with us being competitive as a Rook I could see him showing potential.

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 10:39 AM

Cam with John Fox 5-11
Brady with Fox 10-6

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 10:41 AM

Cam with John Fox 5-11
Brady with Fox 10-6


Belichick with Cam 10-6

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 10:55 AM

How would Clausen be rated this year? He would be number 3 behind Newton and Gabbert?? Why, he has a number of leadership issues which made him drop last year. They would be the same this year. Add in that we know from experience they are true. If we could wind back the clock and pick again, I am positive we would have passed on both Edwards and Clausen. Part of what is making the situation so hard this year is that we ignored the red flags last year and got burnt. Hurney isn't ignoring them this time around just gauging how important they are versus the upside and positives.


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