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1 decision away from a lost season...

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Zod    14,969

So here we are, one court ruling away from a lost season.

Chances are good that the appeal will be denied, and free agency and the NFL season will begin sometime in July or as soon as the circuit court rules on the June hearing. If this is the case, there will be time for a full camp and preseason. Great news especially for our young team.

But if the appeal is upheld, and the lockout is allowed, I don't see how there will be a full football season this year, if any at all. The Owners are poised to lockout the players for as long as they need to. The players are not as prepared, but will not cave before the start of the season.

So what happens if there is no camp. No preseason. No practices. What happens if the Panthers are thrown into the season with 3 days to prepare for the first game in a 12 game season?

In short, we are god awful. I mean, we would make last season's team look Superbowl caliber.

- completely new coaching staff/scheme/terminology/philosophy/playbook

- no seasoned veteran QB

In short, we are fugged. Think about going against Tampa Bay, New Orleans, and Atlanta who are all at the very least working within the same schemes and playbooks as seasons past with QB's well versed in those schemes.

I can't stress to you how absolutely god awful we will be. Think carefully on the Panthers worst year, then imagine that team but about half as good.

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Zod

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countryboi    1,775

I think everyone knew this was a possibly when we hired a new coaching staff... I for one can not stomach another 2-14 season

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SuperLego5    84

I know Gross is trying to hold some workouts for the team, does anybody know who has been attending? Also what will they be doing at the workouts? Without Rivera etc..surely they can only go over the basics?

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I know Gross is trying to hold some workouts for the team, does anybody know who has been attending? Also what will they be doing at the workouts? Without Rivera etc..surely they can only go over the basics?

From what I get of the rules. The players can copy playbooks and give them to one another (for anyone who missed out on grabbing theirs.) and they can work out together. Granted there won't be any coaches or anything but as long as the team works out together and most if not all have their playbooks I don't see why the team couldn't learn at least the plays and gist of the new schemes.

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Woodcookedbbq    251

So we'll get the #1 pick in the draft again in that likely scenario. Most certainly it will be Andrew Luck. If that happens, do you think we'll keep Cam?

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Panthro    9,928

So we'll get the #1 pick in the draft again in that likely scenario. Most certainly it will be Andrew Luck. If that happens, do you think we'll keep Cam?

See what the Falcons gave up for Julio Jones? Now triple that....thats what we can get for Andrew Luck if we have the first pick.

Andrew Luck doesn't want to be a Panther. Cam does and IS.

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Woodcookedbbq    251

See what the Falcons gave up for Julio Jones? Now triple that....thats what we can get for Andrew Luck if we have the first pick.

Andrew Luck doesn't want to be a Panther. Cam does and IS.

True that. Didn't think about the trade scenarios. Hopefully Cam works out and we'll be the envy of the 2012 draft. But what makes you think Andrew Luck doesn't want to be a Panther?

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OchoNueve    158

I disagree with Zod, but I am also assuming that we keep our core free agents (Deangelo, Charles Johnson, Thomas Davis, Kalil) and only lose Richard Marshall to free agency. We will have T. Davis and Otah back from injury, we added Jeremy Shockey, all 3 Rookie WR's from last year have 1 year of experience now (huge), and we added #1 pick Cam Newton to the team.

I understand the argument for coaching staff/scheme/terminology/philosophy/playbook, but I think it will force us to start with the basics and rely on our teams young talent in lieu of intricate playcalling. I don't believe we will compete for the playoffs, but I do believe we are better than the 2-14 team that showed up last year.

Sincerely,

"Glass is half full"

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PantherBrew    1,263

See what the Falcons gave up for Julio Jones? Now triple that....thats what we can get for Andrew Luck if we have the first pick.

Andrew Luck doesn't want to be a Panther. Cam does and IS.

Hold San Fran, Buffalo, Arizona, Miami for Ransom.

In all honesty, could be looking at 2-3 first rounders, 2-3 2nd rounders. 2-3 3rd rounders.

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PantherBrew    1,263

True that. Didn't think about the trade scenarios. Hopefully Cam works out and we'll be the envy of the 2012 draft. But what makes you think Andrew Luck doesn't want to be a Panther?

Cause he could be a Panther right now if he wanted.

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rayzor    10,298

See what the Falcons gave up for Julio Jones? Now triple that....thats what we can get for Andrew Luck if we have the first pick.

Andrew Luck doesn't want to be a Panther. Cam does and IS.

Absolutely.

Luck was my first choice, but newton was always my second...and not a very distant one. I don't know that luck didn't want to be a panther, but i'm not going to argue that. i don't care. he's not one and thats all that matters at this point.

there are a good few teams that will be willing to get flat out abused in a trade for luck. the bare minimum for a pick like that would entail in 2012 a switching of 1sts plus a second and third plus the first three picks from the 2013 draft. i would expect a decent player would be thrown into the mix as well.

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