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Delhommey

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you're buying my wine the next time I see you...assface

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I was just thinking that maybe the thinking is that once all teh gheys are gone, the upstanding Christian Men won't be so distracted by their tight pants and perfect hair, so they can then concentrate more on their wives?

I'm sorry this is a divorce thread not a swing it to the religious thread, it's amazing that most of you here who can't stand talking about faith based values will swiftly bring it up and bash it.

I'm a hypocrite so what, why don't you grow up and realize i'm a man and flawed.

OH NO A CHRISTIAN ADMITTED HE CAN BE WRONG AHHHH!!!!

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OK, now do something to correct the flaw.

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you're buying my wine the next time I see you...assface

Deal. Just let me know when it's open.

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I love talking about faith based values.

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OK, now do something to correct the flaw.

I'll live my life, loving my wife and kids, continue to grow in my faith, and try in some miniscule way to impact this world in a positive way, but while doing so i'll make mistakes, i'll mess up, and will continue to be flawed in some ways, but so will you and every other human, or are you telling me that to correct my flaws would make me an equal to you because you're perfect?

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No, but this is an easy one. Work to convince all your Christian friends that they should police themselves morally a lot better before starting out on changing the world. If half of the Christian Right did this, they would be so discouraged implementing morals on their own that the idea of imposing them on other minded people would be seen as the terrible idea that it is.

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No, but this is an easy one. Work to convince all your Christian friends that they should police themselves morally a lot better before starting out on changing the world. If half of the Christian Right did this, they would be so discouraged implementing morals on their own that the idea of imposing them on other minded people would be seen as the terrible idea that it is.

That's a great idea, (no sarcasm), I wish the image the Conservative Christian presented was better. I'm sure that we all could take the advice you just gave me, take out the words Christian, and it would make all of us better. I have arrived at a place in my mind where I know that only those willing to accept help, advice or just plain time accept it or want it. My position morally should not impose on you, unless your position imposes on me and vice versa, thus the thinking of any upright human am I correct?

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Of course.

But them I've seen the argument for, say, "Just letting my daughter see two men hold hands in public is imposing their will onto me, so I need to fight that".

I don't like seeing that either, or gay parades for that matter - I am personally uncomfortable with that kind of thing. But at the same time it would be hypocritical of me to come out against them - I just put up with it as the price of living in a free society, just like I have to put up with the people that feel that "curing" gays is a noble cause and such.

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