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#16 rayzor

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 10:45 AM

we'll still be running the ball a lot, though. probably more this year than we have in a couple years.

to do any good with a new QB, you have to plan on running the ball 30-35 times a game. we'll need all the help we can get there.

only thing is, we wouldn't be using many multiple back sets. we probably won't be using the FB except for a couple plays a game.

as talented as sutton is, we might not have a need or room for him. if we keep him he won't be active barring injury to williams or stewart.

#17 Stroupe-a-loop

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 10:45 AM

Not tryna jack anyone's "SWAG" on this one... but I believe that I was the person who posted that article. Since Im not at 100 posts yet, I dont have the priviledge of starting a new thread.

Can someone explain to me what I need to do to get my SWWWAAAAG up?


First rule about getting swag: you do not talk about swag. If you have swag, don't worry, it will come to you over time. If you don't have sway, you will be eaten by a mountain lion in front of your family. Either way, things will work themselves out eventually.

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 11:08 AM

First rule about getting swag: you do not talk about swag. If you have swag, don't worry, it will come to you over time. If you don't have sway, you will be eaten by a mountain lion in front of your family. Either way, things will work themselves out eventually.


ahhhh... I see...

so in other words...



#19 pantherfan49

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 11:19 AM

We're not playing "Fox Ball" anymore. We won't be running the ball 75% out of the I formation. So there won't be a need for 5 RBs and 2 FBs.


I bet we'll be running a lot of the single back formation or the shotgun with at least three wide.


Fox didn't run the ball a lot last year.

If you go into a season with less than 5 RBs (including FBs), you are asking for it. Seeing as how Fiammetta, Goodson, and Stewart are locks, I don't see Sut being let go, regardless of how the DWill situation plays out.

Sut is this team's Nick Goings. A good, do it all type role player.

Edited by pantherfan49, 10 May 2011 - 11:23 AM.


#20 DaCityKats

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 11:20 AM

i can see williams, stewart, goodson, and sutton and fiametta as the fb.that leaves vaughn and jackson out.

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 11:32 AM

i can see williams, stewart, goodson, and sutton and fiametta as the fb.that leaves vaughn and jackson out.


Yup, that's about right.

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 11:37 AM

The only way Sutton makes the team is if Thomas Davis cant make it through the year. Otherwise I believe he won't be a Panther when regular season starts.

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 11:41 AM

The only way Sutton makes the team is if Thomas Davis cant make it through the year. Otherwise I believe he won't be a Panther when regular season starts.


I fail to see the connection between Davis staying healthy and Sutton making the roster.

#24 KillerKat

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 11:43 AM

Because of the number of players you can keep on the 53 man roster. Did I really have to point that out?

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 11:49 AM

Not tryna jack anyone's "SWAG" on this one... but I believe that I was the person who posted that article. Since Im not at 100 posts yet, I dont have the priviledge of starting a new thread.

Can someone explain to me what I need to do to get my SWWWAAAAG up?


Looking at porn always does it for me.

#26 pantherfan49

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 12:33 PM

Because of the number of players you can keep on the 53 man roster. Did I really have to point that out?


Yes.

You said the only way Sutton (a reserve combo RB and FB) gets a roster spot is if TD (a starting LB) stays healthy for an entire season. Ignoring the fact that you probably can't determine if TD will be healthy for the entire season when the 53 man roster is due at the beginning of the season, if TD is indeed healthy, it likely means that an extra LB won't be carried and it will free up another spot on the 53 man roster.

If Sut was drafted by the Panthers, we wouldn't be having this discussion. But since he is a trash-heap pickup from another team, our fans fail to see his value. The man averaged 5.5 ypc last year and also chipped in 12 receptions in very limited opportunities. He plays two positions as well as special teams and he can return kicks. Combine that with the fact that all of the remaining RBs on the team have had injury issues, yet the Panthers didn't draft any new RBs, and I think it is quite clear that Sut's spot on this team isn't in jeopardy.

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 12:46 PM

he has a lot of value, because he can play fb too.as well as special teams so i doubt he is not on this team next year.

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 12:55 PM

I think a lot of the mid-tier guys like Sutton are sweating a little. We have no idea the offense, defense, and special teams schemes/system that Rivera and staff will run.

Trying to predict how many of any position we will keep under these circumstances woudl be nothing more that mere speculation.

Any frame of reference that we currently have was from past history under Fox Ball.

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 04:39 PM

Yes.

You said the only way Sutton (a reserve combo RB and FB) gets a roster spot is if TD (a starting LB) stays healthy for an entire season. Ignoring the fact that you probably can't determine if TD will be healthy for the entire season when the 53 man roster is due at the beginning of the season, if TD is indeed healthy, it likely means that an extra LB won't be carried and it will free up another spot on the 53 man roster.

If Sut was drafted by the Panthers, we wouldn't be having this discussion. But since he is a trash-heap pickup from another team, our fans fail to see his value. The man averaged 5.5 ypc last year and also chipped in 12 receptions in very limited opportunities. He plays two positions as well as special teams and he can return kicks. Combine that with the fact that all of the remaining RBs on the team have had injury issues, yet the Panthers didn't draft any new RBs, and I think it is quite clear that Sut's spot on this team isn't in jeopardy.


I guarantee you even if Davis is healthy to start the season, we carry 7 LBs just in case. Then if it comes down to us needing a 4th RB, we can pick up someone on the waiver wire or FA. RB is one of the most replaceable positions in the league. If Davis can't start out the season, then I see us cutting him and then maybe carrying 4 RBs.

Edited by KillerKat, 10 May 2011 - 04:43 PM.


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Posted 10 May 2011 - 05:30 PM

by cutting jackson and vaughn we should be able to use those roster spots on other positions. and i highly doubt we keep a kick off guy.


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