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#13 Montsta

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 04:11 PM

I think this does include all recent moves. IMO, being under the cap is all that matters. Now that the team is in a position that they can keep the tag on Peppers and not have to release him, offers will start to come in. I would not be surprised if Peppers is traded to Denver or Houston by Monday and the Panthers have close to 20 million to spend in FA.


True. But that $20 M won't be very useful if we don't move him in the very early days of FA.

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 04:18 PM

Right now were just under 8 million under the cap.


Can you elaborate? You may be right, but without some details I'm not inclined to believe jasonluckydog over Adam Schefter.

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 04:18 PM

True. But that $20 M won't be very useful if we don't move him in the very early days of FA.


Why not? I think you have until a certain date to be under the cap.


So in truth we could sign a lot for a lot, as long as we're under the cap by the date specified.

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 04:21 PM

Why not? I think you have until a certain date to be under the cap.


So in truth we could sign a lot for a lot, as long as we're under the cap by the date specified.


that is incorrect....the league would not approve the contract if you are over the cap when you offer and sign it.

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 04:38 PM

Can you elaborate? You may be right, but without some details I'm not inclined to believe jasonluckydog over Adam Schefter.


At first I agreed with you that there is no way we are 8 million under. But I think it may be even more than that.

First reports had us entering the offseason at 10 million under the cap. The cap has since been increased by 4 million giving the team 14 million under.

They have signed 4 players to contracts; Peppers, Gross, King and Anderson. Those contracts total 19.338 million.

They have made several moves including cuts, restructures and extensions. Those moves I have totaling 15.540 million in cap savings. Here's a quick run down of those moves: Goings .75, Bridges 1.25, Hackett 1.04, Lewis 2.00, Johnson 1.00, Kemo 1.50 and Gamble 8.00.

So 14.000 - 19.338 + 15.540 = 10.202 million in cap space. My guess is that Schefter hasn't included that 8 million move with Gambles contract.

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 04:46 PM

At first I agreed with you that there is no way we are 8 million under. But I think it may be even more than that.

First reports had us entering the offseason at 10 million under the cap. The cap has since been increased by 4 million giving the team 14 million under.

They have signed 4 players to contracts; Peppers, Gross, King and Anderson. Those contracts total 19.338 million.

They have made several moves including cuts, restructures and extensions. Those moves I have totaling 15.540 million in cap savings. Here's a quick run down of those moves: Goings .75, Bridges 1.25, Hackett 1.04, Lewis 2.00, Johnson 1.00, Kemo 1.50 and Gamble 8.00.

So 14.000 - 19.338 + 15.540 = 10.202 million in cap space. My guess is that Schefter hasn't included that 8 million move with Gambles contract.


Good stuff. Thanks.

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 05:22 PM

At first I agreed with you that there is no way we are 8 million under. But I think it may be even more than that.

First reports had us entering the offseason at 10 million under the cap. The cap has since been increased by 4 million giving the team 14 million under.

They have signed 4 players to contracts; Peppers, Gross, King and Anderson. Those contracts total 19.338 million.

They have made several moves including cuts, restructures and extensions. Those moves I have totaling 15.540 million in cap savings. Here's a quick run down of those moves: Goings .75, Bridges 1.25, Hackett 1.04, Lewis 2.00, Johnson 1.00, Kemo 1.50 and Gamble 8.00.

So 14.000 - 19.338 + 15.540 = 10.202 million in cap space. My guess is that Schefter hasn't included that 8 million move with Gambles contract.


How could that be right when Pep alone is making $16 mil and Gross' contract pays $30 mil the first three years.

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 05:30 PM

How could that be right when Pep alone is making $16 mil and Gross' contract pays $30 mil the first three years.


You are correct sir. That should be 29.338 million. So that means my math was way off. So that would only leave the Panthers with .202 million in cap space. So Schefter is probably right on with his total of 1.9 million.

Damn, I glad you caught my mistake but at the same time 1.9 million isn't that much at all.

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 05:59 PM

Why not? I think you have until a certain date to be under the cap.


So in truth we could sign a lot for a lot, as long as we're under the cap by the date specified.


The point I was trying to make is that all the big free agents will be gone in the first few days, so if we trade Pep too late, it won't matter if we have $5 Million, or $20, there will be no one to spend that much on.

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 06:05 PM

we have about 5 milll or so. Peppers I think will be traded and so will lucas if he isn't flat out cut.

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 06:13 PM

I think it's funny that the skins have the 5th least cap space and are coming off an 8-8 season w/ no playoff appearance.... that tells you all you need to know about the skins.

Yeah, go ahead and sign Hanyesworth - great idea.

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 06:20 PM

The point I was trying to make is that all the big free agents will be gone in the first few days, so if we trade Pep too late, it won't matter if we have $5 Million, or $20, there will be no one to spend that much on.


why do we need to sign a "big name player"? I think that it would be pretty freaking retarded for this team to sign a big name FA with that 20 mil. Who out there is really worth a fat ass contract?

I guarantee you that every team that signs a big name FA is going to overpay, massively. Unless you get Haynesworth at 4 mil a year.

I would rather use that money to extend D-will, Beason, and Davis. Instead of dropping it on an overpriced lard ass who may or may not be motivated to help you win now that he has a 12mil/yr contract.