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#1 CatMan72

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 09:20 AM

According to profootballfocus.com, Dante Rosario is a more efficient pass blocking TE than Jeff King. He was the 4th best pass blocking TE in the league from 2008-2010 while King was one of the 5 worst...

It is a surpise, however, to see two pass catching tight ends, Dallas Clark and Dante Rosario, in the top five. We know (largely) why Clark features so highly and that has something to do with Peyton Manning’s ability to avoid giving pressure a chance to influence him. But Dante Rosario is more unexpected, though he does benefit from being used in a number of two tight end sets where both men stay in, and as a half back more inclined to pick up a blitzer than an end. It’s still an impressive response to the challenge.


Read more: http://www.profootba...ncy-tight-ends/

I have thought for a couple years that Rosario is the biggest sleeper on our roster, with a TE-oriented OC and offense, maybe this is his year to breakout?

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 09:22 AM

I have thought for a couple years that Rosario is the biggest sleeper on our roster, with a TE-oriented OC and offense, maybe this is his year to breakout?


He lacks mental focus but is clearly an athlete. Pass blocking is as much about athleticism as anything, and Rosario has plenty of it.

I bet you King is the better run blocker though.

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 09:24 AM

I think it's a big advantage that he probably played on the weakside and was a halfback like they said.

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 09:26 AM

Can't take that website as fact.....too many times there "data" shows stuff that just ain't reality.

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 09:28 AM

He lacks mental focus but is clearly an athlete. Pass blocking is as much about athleticism as anything, and Rosario has plenty of it.

I bet you King is the better run blocker though.


Maybe, but it's always seemed odd to me that Rosario has been our 2nd and 3rd string fullback at times but he's not a better run blocker than King?

Isn't athleticism a big part of run blocking?

I have a feeling that Rosario was in Fox's doghouse and as we've seen with other players once you got in Fox's doghouse it was almost impossible to work your way out. Couple that with the fact that King is a very smart player and a good leader and King's starting role may have had as much or more to do with his intangibles than with him being the best TE on the roster.

Rosario is a vet and has a clean slate now, I'm hoping he takes advantage of the opportunity, I think he has a MUCH higher ceiling than King or Barnidge.

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 09:30 AM

Can't take that website as fact.....too many times there "data" shows stuff that just ain't reality.


No, but it is interesting that their analysis shows Rosario as a significantly better pass blocking TE than King AND the 4th best in the league over a period of 3 seasons... I don't think most people expected to see that (including the author himself)

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 09:30 AM

Maybe, but it's always seemed odd to me that Rosario has been our 2nd and 3rd string fullback at times but he's not a better run blocker than King?

Isn't athleticism a big part of run blocking?

I have a feeling that Rosario was in Fox's doghouse and as we've seen with other players once you got in Fox's doghouse it was almost impossible to work your way out. Couple that with the fact that King is a very smart player and a good leader and King's starting role may have had as much or more to do with his intangibles than with him being the best TE on the roster.

Rosario is a vet and has a clean slate now, I'm hoping he takes advantage of the opportunity, I think he has a MUCH higher ceiling than King or Barnidge.


I don't know....don't sleep on Gary in the recieving department. I think he has just as much potential as Rosario Dawson in that department. A lot of unknowns about our TEs since Fox simply refers someone with Kings skills set being involved.

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 09:34 AM

Maybe, but it's always seemed odd to me that Rosario has been our 2nd and 3rd string fullback at times but he's not a better run blocker than King?

Isn't athleticism a big part of run blocking?


From the fullback position in which you have to run to the line of scrimmage and pound someone, yes. From the TE position where you are blocking directly out of your stance, maybe not so much.

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 09:36 AM

I don't know....don't sleep on Gary in the recieving department. I think he has just as much potential as Rosario Dawson in that department. A lot of unknowns about our TEs since Fox simply refers someone with Kings skills set being involved.


Barnidge seems stiff and I've never seen him make a contested catch.

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 09:37 AM

If his pass blocking is that good, fantastic. He is going to produce more this year. The young quarterback and Chud's fondness of tight ends almost guarantees it.

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 09:40 AM

Barnidge seems stiff and I've never seen him make a contested catch.


did he even play last year?

didn't he have a big contested catch at the end of the 09 season?

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 09:41 AM

Can't take that website as fact.....too many times there "data" shows stuff that just ain't reality.

:confused: they go through every game snap by snap and collect the stats. probably most detailed stats there are. definitely the most thorough stats anywhere. their "data" is just the result of their analysis of the stats.

they have the most clear picture of what is happening on the field than anyone available.

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 09:44 AM

we will most likely only be keeping one between king and rosario.

considering we have a new rookie QB, this, along with his being a better receiver/playmaker than king, is going to make him more valuable considering we have a rookie QB.

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 09:44 AM

From the fullback position in which you have to run to the line of scrimmage and pound someone, yes. From the TE position where you are blocking directly out of your stance, maybe not so much.


Possibly, but I would think athleticism would be even more important when run blocking from the TE position at the LOS because you don't get a running start like you do at the FB position, the ball is snapped and you have to get the guy blocked right away.

My suspicion is that things didn't start out so well for Rosario with Fox and that put him in the doghouse, meanwhile King came in and was a much more consistent and reliable player.

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 09:47 AM

...I think the other good news for Rosario is that Rivera remembers him quite well, LOL

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