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What about Cam will revolutionize the game?

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Just wanna throw this out there, being bigger than CB and S doesn't make he will break the tackle. Doubt they are gonna be going head up with him. Small guys are taught to tackle by taking out your legs. Doesn't matter how big you are, can't run when someone takes your legs out from under you.

IMO, being much bigger and stronger than CBs, Ss, and most LBs absolutely does mean Cameron will have the advantage against them. Trying to take out Cams legs is not the surest way to tackle, it is hit and miss at best. Cameron has the ability to make the first guy miss, so wrapping up and waiting for help will probably be the norm for tackling Cam.

That said, we all pretty much agree we do not want Cameron running around nilly willy. Maybe a few scrambles, and the occasional QB draw should suffice. We would all prefer that he move around in the pocket, roll out, anything to extend the play. Then maybe run. Just do what comes naturally is all I ask.

At least that is what I think I think about this anyhow. GOOOO PANTHERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Maybe if they go head on with each other. But at 6'6 250 pounds those linebacker are going to have to form tackle him. There won't be many one armed tackles like you see against Vick.

Plus those big bad linebackers had a hard time bringing Freeman, Big Ben, and The Golden Calf of Bristol down last year (he had 94 rushing yards against a Ron Rivera led Chargers team last year). And Cam is light years ahead of any of those guys in terms of scrambling/running the football.

So we shall see.

I do believe we have one of those instances where we will have to wait and see how this does play out. I just happen to believe that with Cams size, strength, and athletic ability, he has a distinct advantage over almost every player he faces.

As I have previously stated. Other than scrambles and a few QB draws I do not want him running just to run. To be the most effective Franchise QB he can be, he has to be a passer that can run, not a running QB.

Personally, I cannot wait to see how this does play out. Because, I see excitement on the horizon. And GOOOOO PANTHERS!!!!!!!!!!!

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I seriously doubt Cam will look anything like his college days. His skills will translate to extending plays, not by running people over. Size is not a big advantage, he'll lead the league in fumbles if he tries to play like he did in college. That's assuming he isn't killed by week 5.

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Well I have definitely seen LBers and DE's bounce off of Big Ben and Josh Freeman, so don't ever say it can't be done. Cam is just as big and quite a bit faster than both of those QB's. The real advantage though, is that the defender is always reacting to what the offender is doing, which means they can be set up so that they can't get a solid hit.

I have no doubt that guys who hit Cam high will likely bounce off. But CBs and smaller safties are going to be hitting him low, not high. So IMO it shouldn't be assumed that he is just going to be running through them. Big guys still have a hard time running when their legs are taken out.

IMO, being much bigger and stronger than CBs, Ss, and most LBs absolutely does mean Cameron will have the advantage against them. Trying to take out Cams legs is not the surest way to tackle, it is hit and miss at best. Cameron has the ability to make the first guy miss, so wrapping up and waiting for help will probably be the norm for tackling Cam.

That said, we all pretty much agree we do not want Cameron running around nilly willy. Maybe a few scrambles, and the occasional QB draw should suffice. We would all prefer that he move around in the pocket, roll out, anything to extend the play. Then maybe run. Just do what comes naturally is all I ask.

At least that is what I think I think about this anyhow. GOOOO PANTHERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nowhere in my post did I say Cam wouldn't have an advantage. Every tackle is hit and miss. Hitting a big guy low has a much better chance then hitting him high.

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I seriously doubt Cam will look anything like his college days. His skills will translate to extending plays, not by running people over. Size is not a big advantage, he'll lead the league in fumbles if he tries to play like he did in college. That's assuming he isn't killed by week 5.

For lack of a better argument I will just say malarkey.

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I will only add that as of July 3, 2011 Randall Cunningham, Steve Young, Mike Vick, Vince Young, Kordell Stewart, etc. have not been killed by NFL linebackers.

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Mike Vick has taken severe punishment, he's the worst example to use, aside from Steve Young who retired and is a prime example.. Kordell Stewart wasn't even legit, but nvm, you're right he was a great punter at one point. lol

I have nothing on Randal Cunningham. All I can say was when I was about 5 or 6 I thought he was the best QB ever to play football.. (granted, all I ever did was watch highlights considering he was long retired by that point..)

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I will only add that as of July 3, 2011 Randall Cunningham, Steve Young, Mike Vick, Vince Young, Kordell Stewart, etc. have not been killed by NFL linebackers.

killed perhaps not, but linebackers and others took their tool on many of those guys on that list

but I doubt cam will be killed. maimed, injured? sure, perhaps even disabled for a week or two, but killed?? I'm pretty sure the competition committee just passed a "No Killing Quarterbacks" rule, so we should be OK.

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While he won't revolutionize the game, I'm excited to see what the offense will look like and to see how well Cam performs in the NFL. I remember reading somewhere that Rivera and Chud were adding designed rushing plays for Cam.

Can't wait for the NFL season.

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After 165 posts the "I don't know if Cam will revolutionize the game, But I am pretty excited to see how he does this year" group seems to be the clear majority. It is hard to predict the future but if pillsbury dough boy last year didn't get killed for us but was sacked plenty, it is unlikely that a chiseled athletic specimen like Newton will be.

On the other hand guys gets hurt all the time and sometimes they are freak accidents other times deliberate attempts. So it hard to know anything for sure. Still I am in the pretty excited to see him play group as well.

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killed perhaps not, but linebackers and others took their tool on many of those guys on that list

but I doubt cam will be killed. maimed, injured? sure, perhaps even disabled for a week or two, but killed?? I'm pretty sure the competition committee just passed a "No Killing Quarterbacks" rule, so we should be OK.

Linebackers and DE's take their toll on everybody that plays QB not just mobile QBs (except Peyton Manning who manages to never get hit even when he is sacked). That is just a product of football.

Bottom line as both of us have said is as long as he utilizes the sideline or gets his ass down to avoid hits he will be fine.

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He just needs Smitty to teach him how to stiffarm probowlers into the dirt.

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