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#31 venom

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Posted 02 March 2009 - 01:59 PM

The moron starts another terrible thread.

Thanks for your worthless input.



**Hint: This is where you come back with, "Hey isn't it ironic because you added nothing but worthless sh*t as well."



If you can already compare Obama's to Carter's then you are much less intelligent then the low standard I already attribute to you.


Another terrible thread?? This thread is about the direction this country is going economically and ideologically; it's about learning from prior administrations and acting accordingly and responsibly; it's about the well being of this nation and its founding principles. I'd say thats rather important.

If you think what i'm saying is so moronic and worthless i'd like to see you try and disprove everything ive said. I would like to hear your side of the story.

You have no grounds on knocking anyone's intelligence until you have attempted to refute what you believe to be incorrect. Until that happens you are a complete waste and really have no business speaking on here, come down to it.

#32 Carolina Husker

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Posted 02 March 2009 - 03:06 PM

Guys, just trust Venom. This guy is a genius.

You're all just dumb economically and politically. It's disrespectful to even question him.

#33 HoFBound90

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Posted 02 March 2009 - 03:33 PM

Another terrible thread?? This thread is about the direction this country is going economically and ideologically; it's about learning from prior administrations and acting accordingly and responsibly; it's about the well being of this nation and its founding principles. I'd say thats rather important.

If you think what i'm saying is so moronic and worthless i'd like to see you try and disprove everything ive said. I would like to hear your side of the story.

You have no grounds on knocking anyone's intelligence until you have attempted to refute what you believe to be incorrect. Until that happens you are a complete waste and really have no business speaking on here, come down to it.



Lol...you really have to be an alternate account that someone uses just to heat people up over topics. No one is this stupid. And why should I disprove anything when you just tell people to "do the math" when they ask for your evidence.

You are just a joke. How can I refute a claim so stupid as that. I feel I may become Simple Jack if I actually tried. Face it, Bush sucked, you are wrong, you have no actual clue and just want to get a rise out of people. Personally I enjoy the good laugh when I see one of your posts. However, we should limit your number of posts.

p.s. I'd rather have a dead farm animal in the office rather then Bush again.

#34 Go To Girl

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Posted 02 March 2009 - 03:35 PM

Must be a miserable life to have such blind hatred if you're real.....or just fun if you're an alter ego.

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Posted 02 March 2009 - 04:15 PM

see...youre not educated. Now i wasnt the biggest bush fan, and the greatest downfall to Bush was all his spending. Now keep in mind that Bush had generated double the revenue clinton had during his tenure, and the first 6 years of Bush's reign was extremely prosperous.

If you know what youre talking about, you'll know that Bush's growing unpopularity over the war, had lost the republicans power in the congress, thus the Democrats taking over during elections in '06, with Bush now at the helm as a "lame duck." Ever since the democrats had gained power, the economic collapse had begun, led by our favorites, Barney Frank and Co.

So if you know anything about politics, you'll know that ever since the Democrats had taken over the country back in 2006, all of this has begun to snowball only to reach our current state.

If you thought Bush was bad, then there is absolutely no reason that you should think Obama is far worse.


The economy was going to collapse no matter what, bush insured of that with his mortgage rate hikes through his first few years, then by giving the mortgage freeze for people who had defaulted on loans and allowing people to keep there homes with his plan. It didn't work, It was a failure. They knew then if it didn't work that the economy was going to collapse by 2009. Reasons being is because of previous activities by banks. (the banks were giving people with high at risk credit home mortgages, they shouldn't have given to begin with.) (Remember Rates were high because the government was raising them all the time, which led to the defaulting of loans.) Then bush added to the banks mistakes by freezing mortgage rates so the banks couldn't get there money back Greenspan even admitted ( the guy who controlled the economy for nearly 19 years.) he made mistakes (he thought banks could control themselves and limit the risk of collapsing the bank market, They couldn't) Amidst other problems he had to deal with, coupled with the few mistakes he made and the inflation problem the economy collapsing was going to happen. The problem is trying to fix it after it's so far gone.

Added to that is Bush's Frequent tax benefits to the rich and stimulus plans (one back in 2001) that only the wealthy benefited from and you can kinda see why were in this situation. Higher spending on homes with high mortgages and over spending by the American consumer lead to this and it was going to happen no matter what.

Also Bond stocks were at nearly all time low yields in 2005 - 2006 and were a direct outlook on American spending and the home market collapsing because of mistakes made on all accounts. (Greenspan, Banks and Bush all made mistakes that lead directly to the situation that obama has no choice but to clean up.

Edited by carpanfan96, 02 March 2009 - 04:17 PM.


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Posted 02 March 2009 - 05:23 PM

Throw money at it.

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Posted 02 March 2009 - 05:46 PM

Guys, just trust Venom. This guy is a genius.

You're all just dumb economically and politically. It's disrespectful to even question him.


thank you for the kind words. questioning me is fine, and insulting me is fine if you choose to do so. but instead of just insulting me and saying my ideals are moronic, i would like a (serious) rationale as to why some of you think they way you do, thats all.

#38 venom

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Posted 02 March 2009 - 05:53 PM

Lol...you really have to be an alternate account that someone uses just to heat people up over topics. No one is this stupid. And why should I disprove anything when you just tell people to "do the math" when they ask for your evidence.

You are just a joke. How can I refute a claim so stupid as that. I feel I may become Simple Jack if I actually tried. Face it, Bush sucked, you are wrong, you have no actual clue and just want to get a rise out of people. Personally I enjoy the good laugh when I see one of your posts. However, we should limit your number of posts.

p.s. I'd rather have a dead farm animal in the office rather then Bush again.


no youre the joke. i've given plenty of explaination and facts as to why i think the way i do. Bush did not suck. Yes he had things he did that i do not agree with, and i have no problem pointing those things out (as i have in this thread). If you ask me, Reagan was the ideal president. His presidency should be studied and followed.

It is fact though that Obama's ideals are not what this country was founded on, and we as a nation will pay the price. Obama is going to destroy this country. Why is it so hard to realize this. We see it happening more and more every day. Why is this so hard to understand?

lets make it easier for you. i want you to tell me one positive thing Obama has done in the past 6 weeks.

ps. this is my only account.

#39 Htar

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Posted 02 March 2009 - 05:57 PM

Too early to tell with Obama.

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Posted 02 March 2009 - 06:03 PM

Obama might be great, might be just average, he might suck out loud.
Can't tell yet.

Kinda need more than a few weeks in office to make that call.

Sorta like those dumbasses that start talking about rookies as the next big thing when they have played just a few games.

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Posted 02 March 2009 - 06:06 PM

Can I start talking about the Cubs yet?

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Posted 02 March 2009 - 07:04 PM

no youre the joke. i've given plenty of explaination and facts as to why i think the way i do. Bush did not suck. Yes he had things he did that i do not agree with, and i have no problem pointing those things out (as i have in this thread). If you ask me, Reagan was the ideal president. His presidency should be studied and followed.

It is fact though that Obama's ideals are not what this country was founded on, and we as a nation will pay the price. Obama is going to destroy this country. Why is it so hard to realize this. We see it happening more and more every day. Why is this so hard to understand?

lets make it easier for you. i want you to tell me one positive thing Obama has done in the past 6 weeks.

ps. this is my only account.


“The first 100 days is going to be important, but it’s probably going to be more like the first 1,000 days that makes a difference,” Obama

Sorry but he knew how bad things were and so did we when we voted for him. He will make progress but what can you expect in less then 2st half of his 100 days. Hes just trying to somehow make do with the irreparable damage Bush did.

Obama is smart and knows his overall term will need to take effect for longer then 6 weeks.

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Posted 02 March 2009 - 09:38 PM

Obama might be great, might be just average, he might suck out loud.
Can't tell yet.

Kinda need more than a few weeks in office to make that call.

Sorta like those dumbasses that start talking about rookies as the next big thing when they have played just a few games.


Agreed. However, i wouldnt say that making steps towards nationalizing health care, nationalizing of banks, creating a flase "tax cut" (which will take effect in april), the closing of gitmo, and the passing at the nations most expensive [pork] bill in history isnt exactly giving us any reason to think highly of him at the moment. He's been in office for 6 weeks now and he's already trying to reshape our founding governmental principles.

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Posted 02 March 2009 - 09:48 PM

“The first 100 days is going to be important, but it’s probably going to be more like the first 1,000 days that makes a difference,” Obama

Sorry but he knew how bad things were and so did we when we voted for him. He will make progress but what can you expect in less then 2st half of his 100 days. Hes just trying to somehow make do with the irreparable damage Bush did.

Obama is smart and knows his overall term will need to take effect for longer then 6 weeks.


Ok...one hundred days, one-thousand days, it doesnt make a difference. We have seen enough in Obama's policies and ideals in the past 6 weeks to understand that he is trying to radically restructure this country's government, turning us into socialists with the people at mercy of the government.

Yea its only been 42 days, but so far he's managed to sign into law, the nations most wasteful spending bill in history. He has put Bush's spending to shame, and in only 5 weeks! Asides from the fact that you cant spend your way out of a recession in the first place, this bill sent billions of dollars towards special interest groups and government projects. Its a total sham and everyone knows it. For him to stand infront of America and say "there are no earmarks in this bill" with a straight face is insulting to you and i.

lets not also forget universal healthcare. these are programs that once set into place, cannot be reversed. but anyways, i'm not even going to go on that rant again. So yes, 42 days is plenty of time to judge what he'll be up to over the next 4 years. It's not like we're ever going to hear a lick from him about cutting taxes.

Edited by venom, 02 March 2009 - 09:51 PM.


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Posted 02 March 2009 - 10:07 PM

well thank god the republicans are going to replace Michael Steele with Rush. That should get the country back on track in just 2 hours a day


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