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#16 House


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Posted 28 July 2011 - 01:20 PM

#1-The only thing about Grantland that is worth a fug is Bill Simmons, and not because of his great insight but because he is funny with some insight.

#2-If another team had gone out and secured the #1 pass rusher, #1 RB, #2-3 OLB availabe, all within the first 48 hours of the "season", ESPN would be tripping. Hurney might be having to pay a little extra to keep great players on a bad team, but he is signing the guys everyone else coveted.

#3- The only thing worth reading on Grantland is Bill Simmons .

#17 Pox 08

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 01:20 PM

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 01:20 PM

Opinions are like assholes...

The only move I was a bit surprised by was giving Davis 5 years... but not to the extent this guy is. Time will tell.

#19 MattB


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Posted 28 July 2011 - 01:20 PM

I agree with most of that to be honest.

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 01:21 PM

Agreed with the post above about Olindo Mare - no way you give that guy a $12M contract. Otherwise, just a hater.

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 01:23 PM

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#22 Carolina Husker

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 01:23 PM

He's right about the Davis contract. Makes no sense.

The DWill contract won't be decided this year unless he misses a lot of games again with injury.

lol at people wildly panning Grantland because they aren't being nice to your favorite team. Get a grip you pansies.

#23 blackcatgrowl


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Posted 28 July 2011 - 01:23 PM

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What the hell else was we supposed to do?

We're supposed to ignore our current talent (including a RB that helped get us to the playoffs in 2008) and sign every big name available and assemble the Super Team of NFL Glory, and win a Superbowl this year.


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Posted 28 July 2011 - 01:24 PM

Firstly, attacking the TD signing is silly. Clearly, we have some kind of safety net on the deal in case he gets injured again.
Secondly, I agree with the Mare part, if it weren't with such a condescending douche bag tone.
Lastly, I can understand someone saying we may have overpaid a bit, but to say we didn't improve ourselves by doing so is ludicrous.
If any of these guys had gone to any other team, the media would automatically deem that team "improved."
I think the media is generally upset that these players "turned down the oppurtunity" to go play for a team like Dallas or New England or whoever, after the media has spent the whole offseason making Richardson the bad guy in the whole CBA deal..They really expected these players to get the heck outta dodge asap, and now they are just confused and frustrated when their opinions on the issue turned out to be false..
Afterall, who is more likely to garner attention from the media... New England Patriot DeAngelo Williams, or Carolina Panther DeAngelo Williams..?
They are just confused that our big name guys didn't care for the glitz and glamor..

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 01:26 PM

I find it humorous how guys not in the NFL business try to value someone who plays

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 01:26 PM

I still somewhat agree with his take on the DWill signing.

With Stewart, Goodson, and Sutton on roster....and much cheaper alternatives to add another RB, paying DWill $8M per season was a stretch for me.

Don't get me wrong. I love DWill as a player....he is a damn fine RB. And, he is an outstanding team guy and citizen for Charlotte. But, I still see him as a "luxury"...not a necessity.

If we are unable to add a starting calibre CB and maybe another WR because of cap space, the DWill money will bite us in the ass.

My opinion is not a judgement on DWill.....it is more of an evaluation of the needs of this team and how to best fill them with finite $ resources.

Also, I think the Davis extension is VERY risky. He IS coming off a 2nd ACL tear....and that is a big risk. The only way this makes any sense is if the 5 year contract was a deal. If not, too much risk.

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 01:32 PM

He words it a bit differently but still comes to the same prediction. 6-10. The writer is still way off timeline though. He acts like this is all we have done and the regular season is this weekend.

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 01:33 PM

Most of the huddles does not agree because anytime someone says anything negative about the panthers we think they are stupid, wrong, or senseless.

However, he makes valid points rather you agree or not.

Johnson and anderson deals he said are defensible but for the price it is definitely a risk. The office is gambling they will continue to produce and improve.

What he said about the davis deal is relavant. We did have him under contract for this year, and he is coming off of 2 major injuries. Even if he does stay healthy, we have no idea if he will return to his form two years ago. - Valid argument

D- Will - is a 28 year old RB. RB's have shorter NFL useful lives than they use to, and young RB's are producing results and being picked up cheap in the draft. It's a lot on $$$ in the position and another valid argument.

Mare - I think most huddlers agree.

So there is nothing that he said that was just completely off target and invalid.

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 01:33 PM

Every deal is a one year deal, if that. All that matters to the players is the guaranteed money. The rest is for the bean counters.

Interesting to read all the opinions about how teams overpaid for this guy or that. Welcome to the new NFL. Teams will have to spend on their in-house players or specifically targetted FA's.... why not spend on the guys you want on your team instead of the castoff's from other teams?

Every team is negotiating right now to lock their core players long term. The Panthers got a jump on it but I don't expect they will be the only team that getting slammed by wannabe internet GM's until people realize it's a brand new (contract) world out there.

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 01:34 PM

Seems like a fact based article with a few educated opinions based on those facts. I don't expect people to agree with his opinions but I am curious what specifically in the article people find so absurd to call him a dumbass and a hater?

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