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#16 jtnc

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 12:53 AM

We really should have kept Moore.

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 12:55 AM

Even with Cam or Jimmy playing decent it'll be tough. The Eagles, Packers, Bears, Cowboys, Giants, Falcons, Saints, Bucs, maybe the Lions, and maybe the Vikings all have a shot at the Playoffs, not to mention the lowly West champ that will make it in. Getting the wildcard is a stretch, IMO. Next year though, I think good things could happen.

#18 Mr ocho nueve

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 12:55 AM

Wouldnt be buying a championship. Not trolling. Why must the Panthers think they have to start Cam this year. When it is a known fact the only thing that sucked last year was our QB's. Dont make the fans go through Newtons growing pains sit him and bring in either Orton or Bulger to start.


You forgot about poor playcalling, and a injured shuffled-up offensive line.

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 12:56 AM

They don't have to start Newton this year. But sooner or later we have to get a franchise QB to have long term success. Whether it is Cam, or Jimmy (stop laughing), the only way they are going to develop is to play.

I for one am tired of just trying to get by with a decent QB. I am a greedy fan, and I want a star at the most important position on the field. Not for the exposure the team would get or the notoriety, but because that is what it takes to win in this league given the current rules.


Yeah I have no problem starting Newton in a year or two but right now is not the time. Get Orton or Bulger in here. Worse case scenerio is they suck. Throw Cam in after we are eliminated from the playoff contention.

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 12:57 AM

Assuming that we will be going to the playoffs is somewhat silly, while we have made some moves to improve the team I don't believe are playoff material at the moment. However we still have time, and will probably see more signings and possibly a trade or two.

I'm hoping that we will get into the playoffs in about two seasons, by then we would have been able to draft and sign the right people to get the team going, and would give Newton some experience and will make better decisions, etc. I am predicting we go about 6-10 or 7-9, our division is pretty competitive.

I wanted Orton or Palmer before the draft. Wouldn't be opposed to it now. Let Newton learn for a year or so. The best case scenario is a Brett Favre-Aaron Rodgers or a Brees-Rivers type situation, which I would have loved.

That would be beautiful. ^^ Although I'm not a particular fan of Orton, I wouldn't mind seeing Palmer over here. Someone mentioned Bulger coming in, although I cannot see Bulger starting at this point in his career.

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 01:10 AM

Throw him to the wolves and lets see what the kid can do, the rams did it with Bradford, and while he didn't have a miraculous rookie season he played solid and showed flashes but rest assured he learned by getting out there and playing. Not standing on the sidelines.

And I don't want to hear the Rodgers and Rivers sat nonsense. No one can sit there and say they wouldn't have been great QB's if they started right away, thats just the way things unfolded.

edit: Not to mention we have a better supporting cast for Newton than the Rams had in place for Bradford, so if the kid has the talent to warrant the number one overall selection, he'll be able to prove that now, not in a year or 2 from now.

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 01:12 AM

Even with Cam or Jimmy playing decent it'll be tough. The Eagles, Packers, Bears, Cowboys, Giants, Falcons, Saints, Bucs, maybe the Lions, and maybe the Vikings all have a shot at the Playoffs, not to mention the lowly West champ that will make it in. Getting the wildcard is a stretch, IMO. Next year though, I think good things could happen.


Not the boys.... And if either brees, Ryan, or Freeman get hurt those teams are all worse off than we are

#23 PanthersPhan18

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 01:22 AM

nice troll, op


I didn't see anything that would make me think this is a troll post. Why must one always be trolling when disagreed against?

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 01:27 AM

Yeah I have no problem starting Newton in a year or two but right now is not the time. Get Orton or Bulger in here. Worse case scenerio is they suck. Throw Cam in after we are eliminated from the playoff contention.


I do agree that we need to bring in a veteran backup. Should both Cam and Jimmy suck big time in camp and pre-season, we need an option.

This team has too much good, young talent to go through what happened last year all over again. If neither of the young guys are ready to let us be competitive, then it's time to start the vet.

#25 Mr ocho nueve

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 01:41 AM

Well guys, Jake is still on the market.

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 01:42 AM

Throw him to the wolves and lets see what the kid can do, the rams did it with Bradford, and while he didn't have a miraculous rookie season he played solid and showed flashes but rest assured he learned by getting out there and playing. Not standing on the sidelines.

Sam Bradford > Cam Newton. Honestly, what are you going on about? Do you not think that Bradford could have developed into a better QB, having the ability to seek on-the-field advice if the Rams kept around Burgler, thus growing as a better QB much faster? Just because the Rams took the risk, and it payed off, does not mean that when we do we'll get the same results.

And I don't want to hear the Rodgers and Rivers sat nonsense. No one can sit there and say they wouldn't have been great QB's if they started right away, thats just the way things unfolded.

Then let's look at Ryan Leaf, during the 1998 draft he was considered one best players to pick, and was often the topic of debate on whether to pick Leaf or Manning. We all know of the ultimate fall of Leaf, and how disappointing it was to many people.

Who is to say that if Leaf had a QB to develop behind of that he would have become a QB up to the quality of Manning, or around there. I am personally in favor of having an older QB available to help mentor the younger, future QB of the team.

edit: Not to mention we have a better supporting cast for Newton than the Rams had in place for Bradford, so if the kid has the talent to warrant the number one overall selection, he'll be able to prove that now, not in a year or 2 from now.

My points above pretty much sum up what I would say here.

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 01:45 AM

Well guys, Jake is still on the market.


Neg rep!

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 01:48 AM

agreed but it's dependent on Orton and I'm not trading a 2nd rounder for a one year quarterback

#29 Mr ocho nueve

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 01:48 AM

Lol im crying. I'm just saying, Jake has a good thing going for being a mentor. He helped McCoy out a whole lot, McCoy even said it in multiple interviews. I wasn't trying to say for him to start. It's either gonna be Clausen or Newton day 1, no one else.

side note: you do know you have "Pike bandwagon" under your name, right? just saying.

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 01:51 AM

Well guys, Jake is still on the market.

I don't believe Jake is the answer, he hasn't proved to be a stable QB in the past couple years. Persuading the Bengals to do a cheap -- productive for their team -- trade for Carson Palmer would be ideal in my mind, although I don't see that happening. We could bring in Burgler for a second/third string QB, don't know many other veteran QB's out there. :\


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