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Are we becoming the 'Steelers' of the NFC?


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#11 coralreefer_1

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 11:02 AM

I'm all for the comparison, with the exception of the "great defense and running the ball" portion.

Wasn't it pretty much unanimous across the board not long ago that in the league of today, that is just not going to cut it, that modern football needs a strong passing game?

Not coming down on the idea of a Steeler-like team, just saying that maybe a run heavy team in this league is a flashback from a golden age we are not living in anymore.

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 11:07 AM

I'm all for the comparison, with the exception of the "great defense and running the ball" portion.

Wasn't it pretty much unanimous across the board not long ago that in the league of today, that is just not going to cut it, that modern football needs a strong passing game?

Not coming down on the idea of a Steeler-like team, just saying that maybe a run heavy team in this league is a flashback from a golden age we are not living in anymore.


Teams have to do both to avoid being one dimensional. Look at when the saints finally won the Superbowl, they had a top 5 passing game and a top 5 running game as well as an improved defense.

A top running game improves your passing game and vice versa. Part of the reason our running game suffered last year was lack of a deep passing attack and keeping safeties out of the box. But a great passing game without any running game can be shutdown as well much like New York did to New England in the superbowl after the 2007 season.

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 11:15 AM

Teams have to do both to avoid being one dimensional. Look at when the saints finally won the Superbowl, they had a top 5 passing game and a top 5 running game as well as an improved defense.

A top running game improves your passing game and vice versa. Part of the reason our running game suffered last year was lack of a deep passing attack and keeping safeties out of the box. But a great passing game without any running game can be shutdown as well much like New York did to New England in the superbowl after the 2007 season.


Agreed. I don't mean to sound like the run game is invaluable, but as you mention, it needs to be balanced with at least something that resembles a passing game (something we had none of last season). Simple strong run, strong defense isn't going to cut it anymore.

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 11:19 AM

Are we becoming the 'Steelers' of the NFC?


Yeah why not. Pantlers.

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 11:21 AM

Agreed. I don't mean to sound like the run game is invaluable, but as you mention, it needs to be balanced with at least something that resembles a passing game (something we had none of last season). Simple strong run, strong defense isn't going to cut it anymore.


Agreed, but it is pretty important to have while you are working for the passing to gel. And heaven forbid we actually are leading a game in the fourth quarter, it really helps to control the clock and extend drives when you can establish a strong running game.

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 11:29 AM

I was under the impression that we have always used the Steeler's as the model. Draft well, keep your core, and have a quality QB. We just seem to deviate every so often. When we have had good QB play, we have been competitive. So I say, as a whole, we have done well. We just have not been so lucky where the QB position is concerned. Hopefully, we have solved that problem.

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 11:29 AM

We have many bandwagon fans to go before we become the Steelers of the NFC.

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 11:34 AM

Hey guys why dont we sign another defensive end, a dt, cb, and a wr, the other steve smith? lol id just love to see how commentators would react to both steve smiths on the same team!

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 11:36 AM

The Steelers though have only had like 4 HC's in their entire history. I am hoping we look and see Ron still here 12-15 years from now. That consistency along with drafting extremely well, is why Pittsburgh is the best ran franchise in history.



That would be nice. I don't see it happening unless we make the playoffs at least 3 times in the next 5 years. Jerry has to be tired of missing the playoffs like we did under Fox. This every other year crap won't cut it. Make it two years in a row, maybe just miss the wild card, I think JR can handle. Going one year, then going 7-9 the next just won't do. It is a tall order. BUT, I do have a ton of faith in Rivera. I think he can flat out get the job done. Great attitude. Seems to know how to lead men.

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 11:43 AM

I could sure get behind that. Look at what's happening now, JR had a plan and is implementing it. Hell the man fired his own sons, if that isn't serious about changing your franchise I don't know what is.

We are bringing in some damn good coaches with really good established backgrounds. We are emphasizing great defense and running the ball. We are getting a QB that mostly will just not have to lose games, but from time to time will have to carry them as QB's do.

I don't know, but there is just something that I have been feeling or seeing since the Rivera hire and his coaching hires that makes me think JR is modeling this franchise after the Steelers somewhat. And honestly that isn't a bad way to go.

I think that we will be compaired to many other teams until our Panther Idenity has been established. Shhhhhh....I think I hear a Panther!