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#1 Kurb

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 10:57 PM

Cam ignored Peter King today at camp.

King tweeted:

SI_PeterKing Peter King
Interesting but not too surprising: Just got stiffed at Panther camp by Cam Newton. Chose not to talk to me post-evening practice.


Why would Cam do this ?

Well for 1 Cam has been known to stay away from media.
Apparently this was a thing at Auburn.

But there is more to the story.

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Lets break down the

not only as a football player, but also an entertainer and icon.


The guys at KissingSuzykolber.com do such a good job breaking it down I will just quote them.

I really don’t think context is the issue, but you asked for it, so here it is.

Are you ready for this? No. You are not ready for this. It’s so breathtakingly illogical that your mind will condense to the size of a golf ball once you absorb it.

A few of you, some angrily, have asked for the story behind the tweet that launched a thousand reactions the other day — this stand-alone quote from Cam Newton: “I see myself not only as a football player, but an entertainer and icon.”

I’ll explain.
Please do.

After about 12 or 13 minutes, I asked him about his deal with Under Armour; I don’t remember my exact question, but it was something about what he expected the deal to do for him. And he said one of the things he wanted to stress was that he saw himself not only as a football player, but also an entertainer and icon.

So, he was talking about an endorsement deal. Well, in that context, the quote seems fairly harmless.

I had thought all along that I wouldn’t use anything from our conversation until this week, after I had seen him at the combine and, hopefully, got to spend a little more time with him. When we got off the phone, I began to think about what he’d said. I knew it would be something that would raise eyebrows among NFL teams, who like their prospects to be single-minded, not entering the league thinking about anything except being the best player they can be.

I wasn’t gonna use this quote. But then I thought, WAIT! This could really fug Cam Newton over if I run it with no context whatsoever! As a journalician, I knew immediately what I had to do.

I thought if anyone else in the lineup asked him about the Under Armour deal, he’d probably say the same “entertainer and icon” thing. I didn’t want to make a news story out of it…

But let’s make a news story out of it!

…but I did want to get it out that he’d told me this, so I sent it out to my 510,000 followers on Twitter.

I didn’t want this to become some big THING, you know? So all I did was tell half a million people about it. SECRET: KEPT.

One of his representatives called the next day to tell me, basically, that I’d sabotaged Newton just before the combine, and it was going to damage him, and if I’d written this as part of a larger story with context, no one would have seen the quote as very troublesome. I told him you’re kidding yourself… if this were in a long story about combine prep and the deal with Under Armour, the media at large would have plucked out the quote and run with it the exact same way.

You’re fooling yourself buddy. EVERYONE in the media would have fuged you over with that quote, and that makes it okay! Also, we’re white!

How does the context of the quote change the impact? To me, not at all.

Holy poo, really? Hey Cam, do you think this new endorsement deal will give you more visibility as an athlete?

“Oh, sure. I see myself not only as a football player, but also an entertainer and icon.”

Are you open to being a spokesperson for the Hitler Youth?

“Oh, sure. I see myself not only as a football player, but also an entertainer and icon.”

How are you in bed?

“I see myself not only as a football player, but also an entertainer and icon.”

You see? Context means NOTHING. It’s like the draft. Totally overrated.


Hope this helps your hate.

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Edited by Kurb, 01 August 2011 - 09:05 AM.


#2 Dpantherman

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 10:59 PM

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 11:01 PM

If King has any real, true integrity he will understand and not make a big freaking deal about it.

He obviously is a talented writer, but even great ones make mistakes and hopefully Peter will learn from this - as I'm sure Cam did beforehand.

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 11:03 PM

Cam obviously learned, this time he ignored the son of a bitch

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 11:07 PM

Wish i cudda saw Petes face as Cam ignored his ass lol

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 11:13 PM

He could be like that safety Mcree was for us. A mid level signing that in our system puts up great #.

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 11:13 PM

I dunno, maybe I'm dense but context didn't seem to help me much in understanding Cam's quote that much. Hell, Moon or Whitfield even said Cam was occasionally prone to such things, "putting the cart before the horse."

I don't think the quote was nearly as bad as some though, so hey. Football players are entertainers and icons these days. At least Cam realizes he isn't just "playing a game" and hopefully he knows that as an icon, he's gotta act the part off the field too. So far, so good.

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 11:16 PM

I'm sure Peter will re-hash his own version tomorrow while telling us about what hazelnut latte's our TC area has to offer, and how cramped he was taking a dump at the local piggly wiggly restroom

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 11:30 PM

from kurb's post, except bolded king's actual comments so you can see the genius that was the commentary.

I really don’t think context is the issue, but you asked for it, so here it is.

Are you ready for this? No. You are not ready for this. It’s so breathtakingly illogical that your mind will condense to the size of a golf ball once you absorb it.

A few of you, some angrily, have asked for the story behind the tweet that launched a thousand reactions the other day — this stand-alone quote from Cam Newton: “I see myself not only as a football player, but an entertainer and icon.”

I’ll explain.


Please do.

After about 12 or 13 minutes, I asked him about his deal with Under Armour; I don’t remember my exact question, but it was something about what he expected the deal to do for him. And he said one of the things he wanted to stress was that he saw himself not only as a football player, but also an entertainer and icon.

So, he was talking about an endorsement deal. Well, in that context, the quote seems fairly harmless.

I had thought all along that I wouldn’t use anything from our conversation until this week, after I had seen him at the combine and, hopefully, got to spend a little more time with him. When we got off the phone, I began to think about what he’d said. I knew it would be something that would raise eyebrows among NFL teams, who like their prospects to be single-minded, not entering the league thinking about anything except being the best player they can be.

I wasn’t gonna use this quote. But then I thought, WAIT! This could really fug Cam Newton over if I run it with no context whatsoever! As a journalician, I knew immediately what I had to do.

I thought if anyone else in the lineup asked him about the Under Armour deal, he’d probably say the same “entertainer and icon” thing. I didn’t want to make a news story out of it…

But let’s make a news story out of it!

…but I did want to get it out that he’d told me this, so I sent it out to my 510,000 followers on Twitter.

I didn’t want this to become some big THING, you know? So all I did was tell half a million people about it. SECRET: KEPT.

One of his representatives called the next day to tell me, basically, that I’d sabotaged Newton just before the combine, and it was going to damage him, and if I’d written this as part of a larger story with context, no one would have seen the quote as very troublesome. I told him you’re kidding yourself… if this were in a long story about combine prep and the deal with Under Armour, the media at large would have plucked out the quote and run with it the exact same way.

You’re fooling yourself buddy. EVERYONE in the media would have fuged you over with that quote, and that makes it okay! Also, we’re white!

How does the context of the quote change the impact? To me, not at all.

Holy poo, really? Hey Cam, do you think this new endorsement deal will give you more visibility as an athlete?

“Oh, sure. I see myself not only as a football player, but also an entertainer and icon.”

Are you open to being a spokesperson for the Hitler Youth?

“Oh, sure. I see myself not only as a football player, but also an entertainer and icon.”

How are you in bed?

“I see myself not only as a football player, but also an entertainer and icon.”

You see? Context means NOTHING. It’s like the draft. Totally overrated.



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Posted 31 July 2011 - 11:57 PM

He obviously is a talented writer, but even great ones make mistakes and hopefully Peter will learn from this - as I'm sure Cam did beforehand.


Huh?:confused: The guy writes paragraph comments about his football opinions and what color his poo was in the morning.

Its not like he is writing pulitzers. Lets not throw around the word "great" so easily.

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Posted 01 August 2011 - 12:43 AM

he's going on and on about it now with people responding to his tweets. he really is a big baby.

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Posted 01 August 2011 - 01:12 AM

I called him out... But He hasn't responded...

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Posted 01 August 2011 - 09:06 AM

I called him out... But He hasn't responded...


He won't he is a coward and is riding previous success instead of actually producing a good article now

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Posted 01 August 2011 - 09:10 AM

I called him out... But He hasn't responded...


King has responded to being called out.

Claimed Cam is the biggest story in Carolina and his story about Carolina would not include any comments from Cam.......therefore since his article would be missing anything from the big story.....he wanted to point out why.

Which makes sense. He just didn't have to act like a biznitch about it.

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Posted 01 August 2011 - 09:21 AM

Sounds like this guy needs a few flaming shitbags up on his front porch!


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