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#11 Matt Foley

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 03:44 PM

The "rain on your wedding day" type irony or the "good advise you just can't take" type irony?


"Death row pardon two minutes too late" irony.

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 03:46 PM

"Death row pardon two minutes too late" irony.


Ain't that the truth

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 03:50 PM

The "rain on your wedding day" type irony or the "good advise you just can't take" type irony?


The "free ride when you've already paid" kind of irony.

(I know what you mean, you think I don't know what irony means, but in this case ironic can be used to describe an unbeknownst hypocritical stance... it's in the dictionary)

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 04:14 PM

Stalin: Communist and Fascist
Mao: Communist and Fascist
Hitler: Socialist (sort of) and Fascist

What's wrong with grouping these three together?


Fascism is based on the concept of social darwinism, the furthest thing from communism and socialism. Dictatorships are dictatorships and I think the general consensus is that neither stalin nor mao led truly communistic regimes.

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 04:25 PM

The "free ride when you've already paid" kind of irony.

(I know what you mean, you think I don't know what irony means, but in this case ironic can be used to describe an unbeknownst hypocritical stance... it's in the dictionary)


Don't come with that dictionary crap! It's a well know fact that irony is not in the dictionary, thus it's ironic.

It's very similar to the fact that gullible is not in the dictionary.

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 04:26 PM

Fascism is based on the concept of social darwinism, the furthest thing from communism and socialism. Dictatorships are dictatorships and I think the general consensus is that neither stalin nor mao led truly communistic regimes.


Social Darwinism is a component of all changing government systems. (It was even evident in our last election here in good old america) People seem to associate social darwinism automatically with eugenics, which I believe to be false. (another arab-muslim type confusion)

Generally fascists dictators use another method to gain power, (hitler, quasi-socialism; mao and stalin, communism) and then use fascism to keep power. All dictators essentially have to be fascist.

Edited by Jase, 04 March 2009 - 04:35 PM.


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Posted 04 March 2009 - 04:33 PM

Don't come with that dictionary crap! It's a well know fact that irony is not in the dictionary, thus it's ironic.

It's very similar to the fact that gullible is not in the dictionary.


Really? Not in the dictionary? Isn't that ironic.

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 04:35 PM

Really? Not in the dictionary? Isn't that ironic.


You learn quick.

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 04:41 PM

Social Darwinism is a component of all changing government systems. (It was even evident in our last election here in good old america) People seem to associate social darwinism automatically with eugenics, which I believe to be false. (another arab-muslim type confusion)

Generally fascists dictators use another method to gain power, (hitler, quasi-socialism; mao and stalin, communism) and then use fascism to keep power.


eugenics?.... dunno about all that.

Capitalism has a large aspect of social darwinism in it, in that the fit prosper and the unfit fall by the wayside. Fascism takes this to an extreme. Communism is the exact opposite of this. Fascism=/dictatorship, dictatorial power is a part of a fascistic government but is hardly the defining characteristic. Fascism is heavily nationalistic and rabidly corporate, communism being inherently based in class can be, by definition, neither of those things.

I'm not arguing that you're wrong in your assessment of leadership tactics by individuals, I'm saying to define Stalin or Mao as communistic or Hitler as socialistic is a misrepresentation of communist, socialist, and fascist ideals.

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 04:48 PM

Still waiting on the vagina pic.